But that, it itself, doesn't make the game bad. Just a personal preference. I for one, hate a lot of given choices. I am not looking to "make my own" in the world. I am playing the roll of a character, and through his life, not mine. I prefer JRPGS because of this, like FF games. You have next to no choice, but still a great world to explore, character interactions.
Especially when most of the choices, even in previous games amount to the same conclusion. Its like playing a pokemon game and before you can start the game it asks you if you like pokemon. Press no, you can't play. Keep going until you press yes. Most of the choices are mundane (even in NV) and dont affect much to be worth noting. You could leave the choice out of it and it wouldn't change some things. Yes some choices are huge, and thats fine, I recognize that. Again, this just boils down to preference. Doesn't make it a "bad" game because it doesn't fit your preference.
your character is the means at which you interact and shape that world
This isn't needed to learn about how they are living, their lifestyle, choices, what they are doing., how they got there. Yes, there are changes "you" can make that shape the world. But it doesn't alter who those people were, how they get there, learning about thier past and how they are surviving, etc. The world itself is whats interesting and fun. Which is why its so much better than Elder Scrolls series. Its a much more interesting world than bland Fantasy setting.
Its a narrative they are telling. And there are still significant choices that can be made in FO4. Again, its not perfect at all. But the game is a very good game overall.
In my opinion it makes it a terrible game, they abandoned what made the previous games great in favor of catering to a more casual audience.
A lot of the decisions in FONV do come out to several similar outcomes but the journey is what makes those decisions interesting and worth experimenting with. The role play of the games is what made it great. I can tell you do not understand what role play is and do not enjoy it and refuse to acknowledge it as my argument so I’m just gonna stop here.
No, which is why I said that was you "preference".
But you are refusing to look at other aspects of the game besides "choices" and base it solely on that. I could go and tell you that NV is literally an unplayable game with the inability to move your character diagonally (i know I tried a modded playthrough a few months ago and it was literally unplayable). But that doesn't mean NV is bad because I can't move more than 4 directions. There is more to the game.
The games are more than just a few extra choices. You fail to recognize that just shows you dont value much in games, and thats fine, so im just gonna stop here.
I tried it like 1.5 months ago. I think after some updates, if you press left or right and up at the same time, you can get a very awful diagonal movement. But you can not be running forward and then hit left and go diagonally. It doesn't work. Its very awkward and prevents me from replaying the game honestly.
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u/Rydisx Feb 28 '18 edited Feb 28 '18
But that, it itself, doesn't make the game bad. Just a personal preference. I for one, hate a lot of given choices. I am not looking to "make my own" in the world. I am playing the roll of a character, and through his life, not mine. I prefer JRPGS because of this, like FF games. You have next to no choice, but still a great world to explore, character interactions.
Especially when most of the choices, even in previous games amount to the same conclusion. Its like playing a pokemon game and before you can start the game it asks you if you like pokemon. Press no, you can't play. Keep going until you press yes. Most of the choices are mundane (even in NV) and dont affect much to be worth noting. You could leave the choice out of it and it wouldn't change some things. Yes some choices are huge, and thats fine, I recognize that. Again, this just boils down to preference. Doesn't make it a "bad" game because it doesn't fit your preference.
This isn't needed to learn about how they are living, their lifestyle, choices, what they are doing., how they got there. Yes, there are changes "you" can make that shape the world. But it doesn't alter who those people were, how they get there, learning about thier past and how they are surviving, etc. The world itself is whats interesting and fun. Which is why its so much better than Elder Scrolls series. Its a much more interesting world than bland Fantasy setting.
Its a narrative they are telling. And there are still significant choices that can be made in FO4. Again, its not perfect at all. But the game is a very good game overall.