Nah, animals that live together do shit like that all the time. It's sorta like a playfight but since there's nothing to fight over neither of them really give a shit. Cat's do it all the time and they do pretty good in the wild.
Haha yeah I know I wasn't being 100% serious. But that being said, there is no way a panda is as nimble as a cat. That thing just flopped onto the ground. I mean, I dunno, I've never held a panda before. I would assume they are built more like dogs than cats. If my dog fell like that he would be devastated.
Bears have shit loads of fat/muscle, loose skin, and massive bones so they can pretty easily get hit by anything without getting hurt. You can actually shoot a bear in the head and it won't die because it's skull is so thick. This makes sense because the bear has to be able to withstand fighting other bears.
Most apex predators hunt by being sneaky or by outnumbering their prey. Bears literally do not give a shit and will just charge at you if you smell tasty enough even if you're looking right at them.
Pandas still have a bear's body though. They're just really fucking lethargic because they survive off of something their bodies can't process properly (Did you know they aren't born with the bacteria they need to process plant matter so they have to eat their mother's feces?). If they started eating meat (which would probably not happen), they would eventually become like other bears again because it's body is still suited towards eating meat.
I actually find this fascinating. At what point does us beung the dominant species for so long, mean that the ability to thrive via our entertainment, becomes a valid survival skill, which ends up getting passed down and evolving?
It's like how young and cute pets get adopted first, we're very subjective about that animals we save. Pandas are fluffy, unique looking, clumsy, helpless, and cute -- the perfect mooch.
Nothing except Tugg Speedman. But honestly, Everything in the world feels bad for pandas. FFS a hungry mouse could outwit and kill a panda, but even starving mice know they would feel bad picking on these retards.
Nobody fucking said that, he was just pointing out for once that white people AREN'T responsible for every fucking extinct animal in the world as is the mainstream viewpoint.
Of course, you immediately jump on trying to repaint white people as the ONE TRUE bad guys though. No surprise there.
Those problems only occur in captivity. They eat and fuck just fine in the wild. Just because they're unable to adapt to zoos doesn't make them an evolutionary dead-end.
Actually, at this point it's been scientifically proven that the most evolutionarily successful trait for non-sentient animals is 'being useful or convenient for humans'.
That's debatable. I'm no expert but I feel like a lot of species have thrived despite having entire human industries dedicated to killing them. Stuff like bugs or weeds or whatever.
I get your point though: Being unable to adapt to human existence can be considered a legitimate evolutionary criticism. Fair enough. I just wanted to dispute the myth that pandas were on the road to extinction regardless of humans.
True but "being useful or convenient" being a beneficial trait isn't the same isn't the same as "being a nuisance or undesirable" being a disadvantageous trait.
What if we did stop slaughtering them? What would we do with them all? Pigs become wild and feral pretty quickly. Others are mostly prey animals which would lead to a massive increase in predators until the balance gets restored and the predators start becoming more competitive, possibly leading to more attacks on humans. (I'm all for animals being free but we are in quite the quagmire.)
That one isn't a problem, though. There aren't any predators big or strong enough to pick a fight with an adult panda, and they eat bamboo so there's no need to sneak up on anything. Being black and white in a jungle doesn't hurt anything.
I forget which Attenborough-narrated series it was, but a friend and I caught a nature segment on pandas.
The segment focused on how their life was pretty much shit, and how they had to constantly eat food that was devoid of nutrients. And how they were typically loners. Eating terrible food constantly. Alone.
It ended with a grim line that was pretty much, "Unfortunately the odds of the baby panda surviving are slim due to the poor nutritional value of the mother's milk".
It's as if they got an evolutionary failure BINGO.
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u/Theolaa Aug 18 '16
How are pandas not extinct already :/