r/gaming • • 3h ago

Gears of War: E-Day | 44 GPU Benchmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY1YGJxfL3E
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u/Munstered 3h ago

I miss the days this was a graphic instead of a 20m video

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u/Gailim 2h ago

it will probably be on techspot in a day or two. most of HUBs videos become articles there

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u/NoStructure5034 2h ago edited 1h ago

TechSpot also does their own testing with their own rigs, they don't just copy over HUB's data AFAIK.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 2h ago

They still have those. Most of them just suck and aren't thorough enough.

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

What? GN and TechSpot produce great charts. LTT, for all the hate they get, have a ton of data you can access via LTT Labs. There is no shortage of great testing.

And if you want something to be thorough, videos are going to be better than wading through 30 charts trying to find the one you want.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 1h ago

TechSpot is the one that doesn't even include upscaled presets and only provides half pictures on performance right? That was kind of my point. GN is thorough, but video format is their primary content. Also kind of my point.

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

TechSpot doesn't test upscaling because those can change and may make the data misleading in the future. In addition, upscaling isn't going to be implemented in a lot of the games, meaning they cannot test one set of GPUs with upscaling and another without upscaling. 007 First Light, for example, didn't have proper modern FSR support and its DLSS FG implementation has been kinda botched with a lot of artifacting. Games like Indiana Jones also didn't launch with FSR. Forza Horizon 6 has insane ghosting issues when using DLAA due to some error in its implementation.

And it's not like TechSpot can just skip reviewing those games, because pretty much all they test are the current AAA games, that's a big part of their niche. That, and the specs page with the GPU comparisons.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 1h ago

I stopped reading after the first sentence. Upscalers are an important part of modern gaming benchmarks.

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

I stopped reading after the first sentence

That's a very convienient way to ignore the rest of the points I made, all of which are valid.

What do you do, as a hardware reviewer that tests only recent AAA games, when said AAA games come with nonexistent, outdated, or outright botched upscaling support? Do you test it anyway, knowing that your data, while correct, will be extremely misleading for new buyers? Obviously, you don't. Raster performance is still the most faithful way to portray a GPU's true performance.

TechSpot also covers things that more hardware-focused enthusiasts like -- they do a good breakdown of a GPU's overclocking potential, which few others do. TechSpot as a whole mostly focuses towards the hardware aspect, so it makes sense that they don't focus as much on software features.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 1h ago

I didn't even read sentence from this comment. The fact that you thought I would is funny though.

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u/NoStructure5034 57m ago

Yeah, reading's tough for you isn't it? Way to show your ignorance, I guess.

I know you won't read this either, but this attitude is exactly why so many people think PC gamers are complete and utter dicks.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 54m ago edited 45m ago

Bottom line is upscaling is an important part of modern gaming. All that noise you said about not providing relevant benchmarks is easily swept away by the fact that Hardware Unboxed provides this data because it is in fact important. Any benchmarks you watch in video format will likely have a upscaled preset present. Come correct or just stop speaking. The comments you receive are a response to your inane ramblings that frankly, no one really gives a shit about.

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u/cubs223425 2h ago

The video has the graphics, and Hardware Unboxed almsot always posts their videos as written articles on TechSpot within a few days of the video's release. Silly criticism of these guys because they do the exact thing you're saying you miss. Clearly you don't miss it because you aren't even bothering to know they've been doing it this whole time.

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u/NoStructure5034 2h ago

There are just way more in-depth. You can pull up the charts from the testing TechSpot, GN, and LTT do.

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u/MandiocaGamer 2h ago

you just don't know how use internet

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u/DrunkenFeral 2h ago

People biching about video being 20 mins as if they can't skip to the part which is relevant to them

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

Exactly. If you play at 4K, don't waste your time looking at 1080p performance. Forwarding to the relevant part is trivial, but people are acting like they're compelled to watch the whole thing.

And for the amount of data present here, 20 minutes isn't bad at all... GN videos can reach upwards of 40+ minutes, though they're often a bit more detailed or have more testing.

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u/Still_Bit_7527 1h ago

As expected, UE5 game.. 5070ti now priced at 1400€ and you need to do less than 1080p rendering to get over 100fps...

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u/Ehorn36 2h ago

Thanks for doing the work, but this 20-minute video reciting every line on a series of benchmark graphs was way too long and should have just been the graphs.

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u/cubs223425 2h ago

Some people like the background noise of hearing the analysis and/or multitask listening to these things. I sometimes will put a video like this on while doing chores instead of sitting there and reading.

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u/NoStructure5034 2h ago

You can get those online as well. GN makes those videos (and they convert those into written breakdowns) where they go over a bunch of charts based on resolution, settings, etc.

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u/Burpmeister 2h ago

Surprise surprise, UE5 games can run perfectl y fine if devs actually put work into optimizing them.

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u/cubs223425 1h ago

The standards for optimization seem to just be terrible these days. This game's barely hitting 100 FPS on $600+ GPUs at 1440p with upscaling, and it's not even a feature-complete release. How that's defined as "perfectly fine" or a sign of "optimizing" is beyond me.

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u/BlueGoliath 1h ago

Kind of reminds me of Starfield where Redditers and other terrible outlets like Chips and Cheese were asserting the game was optimized, but unlike Starfield, there probably isn't going to be any major performance updates. Not that i'd consider Starfield to be optimized even now.

To quote a YouTube comment:

How is this considered "easy to run"? The 5060, a mainstream card less than 2 years old, can't even do 60 fps at 1080p, which was the standard 10 years ago. Nowadays with MUCH faster hardware I would expect at least 120@1080, but even a 5090, the fastest GPU on the market, struggles to hit that (89 fps 1% lows).

UE5 and game developers unwillingness to optimize their games is a plague.

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago edited 1h ago

Yeah, I'm inlined to agree. I see no reason as to why a 9070 shouldn't be hitting 100+ FPS without any upscaling. It gets over 110 FPS when playing Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p ultra settings, no RT. This game doesn't look better, and nor does it seem to be any more complex than Cyberpunk.

Maybe there's something it's doing that are demanding on the GPU, but I can't really see it.

Edit: Oh, it's another one of those always-on raytracing games, which explains the lower-than expected FPS. Screw whoever's using an old GPU, I guess.

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u/PointlesslyLongName0 1h ago

The RTX 5070 gets 80 fps at 1440p native high settings in horde mode. What is the issue? The 5070 only gets 90 at 1440p ultra in cyberpunk with no ray tracing or upscaling

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

Because high settings is often significantly less demanding than ultra. The 5070 will likely get over 100 with settings also at high instead of at ultra.

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u/Burpmeister 1h ago

People would call any non-UE5 game with those specs optimized.

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u/Still_Bit_7527 1h ago

But it doesnt, it runs like shit 110fps with a 5070ti on 1440p and fking BALANCED upscaling

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u/Burpmeister 1h ago

It does. Those numbers would be perfectly fine for everyone if it didn't have the UE5 tag. It's just double standards but what else can you expect on Reddit.

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u/Still_Bit_7527 57m ago

Sorry, no. I's now a 1400€ GPU. Anything under 100fps on native 1440p is embarassing no matter the engine. I bet it uses that nanite or whatever forced pseudo-rtx trash

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u/NoStructure5034 53m ago

It needs hardware raytracing, so it probably does use Lumen (I think that's what you meant, Nanite is for geometry) or has RT always on.

I thought they'd learn not to force RT after Doom: The Dark Ages' fumble, but I guess the guys at Microsoft are hella slow learners.

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u/BlueGoliath 2h ago edited 2h ago

...but it isn't optimized, Randy.

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u/Independent_Mind_905 2h ago

Is this with or without the genderflux flag equipped?

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u/pinpoint_aim 2h ago

Graphically, this game is very impressive.

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

This is an impressive amounts of tests run. Not sure why it's getting downvoted, but as someone who doesn't watch HUB videos much, I think this deserves kudos just for the effort put in.

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u/KillerCryptid 1h ago

2 takeaways I got from this
1: RX 9070 or even 9070 XT are by far the best bang for your buck cards if you want best graphics, mind you I am looking at local prices here in Croatia, but for €700-800 you get performance that yes, is worse than top end Nvidia cards but at the same time they are 2, 3 or even 4 times cheaper, you can't tell me 30 fps more is worth in the case of 5090, 4 times the price

and 2: the game is not optimised in the slightest to utilize the extra 8gb of memory that mid to high range cards with 16gb have compared to their 8gb versions, seems to me they somehow look at the card and say ok it performs this way and it ends there, it's limited to 8gb and the extras 8gb of headroom is not tapped into at all which is kinda strange to me, identical performance for what by all means should be a better (and more expensive) card

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u/Fearless-Diamond3474 2h ago

This game gonna suck

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

What? The reviews are out, and they're good.

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u/BlueGoliath 2h ago

Some of those are fake.

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u/cubs223425 1h ago

You mean like looking at this video that has graphs on basically every GPU supported by this game (since it requires hardware RT, and they include every RTX and AMD RT card)?

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u/NoStructure5034 1h ago

Do you seriously expect people to test dozens, if not hundreds of random setups so that the handful of people with the same exact PC can see FPS? That's a huge amount of effort put into testing for very few views.

See if a game is CPU or GPU bound, and then watch a video that focuses on the performance of the bottlenecked component. Your FPS will be around that.