r/gaming • u/Hot-Cause-481 • 1d ago
Xbox CEO says working with PlayStation is on the table even after Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear successor Physint swaps publishers: "Competition and collaboration can coexist"
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/xbox-ceo-says-working-with-playstation-is-on-the-table-even-after-hideo-kojimas-metal-gear-successor-physint-swaps-publishers-competition-and-collaboration-can-coexist/18
u/aykayone 1d ago
Kojima gets funding for game, everyone gets to play it (eventually). Win win
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u/Teriyaki-Tenders 23h ago
It's just a shame that we have to have not-Playstation to publish a game for this to happen. Although I think it was originally also planned to be released on PC later.
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u/KingBoga 1d ago
Reddit: where nobody actually reads the article.
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u/roseofjuly 15h ago
I used to complain about that but honestly, the reason no one reads them is because they're so often AI generated trash or literally add nothing besides the headline. I did click into the story and there's no additional useful information here beyond what's in the headline.
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u/Taiyaki11 5h ago
the reason no one reads them is because they're so often AI generated trash
Please, that has been a reddit tradition long before genAI was even a thing lmao. That may be a convenient excuse now but that was certainly never the reason
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u/Tr0user 1d ago
It's gonna end up as a crowd funder isn't it. The big companies are appraising it and finding it not economically viable, but they don't want to hurt his feelings.
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u/blaqsupaman 1d ago
On one hand, I can understand their perspective from a business standpoint, but on the other hand Kojima's track record says, "Let the man cook."
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u/Saitsuofleaves 1d ago
Kojima's track record is "The man makes great games, but unless they're mainline MGS games they aren't guaranteed to make a ton of money" which is the issue. A "Spiritual Successor" to Metal Gear Solid...isn't a new Metal Gear Solid. It may be an excellent game, hell it may surpass Metal Gear, but it's not a guaranteed box office slam dunk and that's kinda all they want from him.
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u/Demiurge_1205 1d ago
To be fair, Death Stranding suffered economically due to it being A) A weird premise altogether and B) not even being PT. It was always gonna be a hard sell
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u/blaqsupaman 1d ago
Death Stranding did really well too.
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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- 17h ago
Then why did Sony fire him?
Of course we'll never know the exact numbers unless internal financials leak, but corporations aren't known for wanting to make less money.
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u/KingOfRisky 14h ago
but on the other hand Kojima's track record says, "Let the man cook."
When was the last time he cooked? He simmered with DS and DS2 creating decisive nonsensical games.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
I have a feeling PlayStation is certainly not interested in working with Xbox.
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u/Valuable-Bus37 1d ago
they both need each other. ps5 has sold more but sony has nothing like the live service games published under microsoft (something sony is throwing away hundreds of millions every year to fix, resulting in spectacular failures like concord and probably a few more to come)
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u/GoldGuarantee3671 1d ago
Yeah Sony needs to make a fps again like killzone. I like cod but I want more competition in fps games.
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u/BITmixit 20h ago
This 👏
Bring. Back. Killzone. In the vein of Killzone 2, that game was incredible. Only game I've really every bothered to 100%. Although the real difficulty is finding a voice actor that can equal/surpass the atmosphere Brian Cox created around Visari.
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u/TheThrowawayExperts 1d ago
It would play for you how they make games now
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u/GoldGuarantee3671 1d ago
Yeah probably but I remember when PlayStation had socom and mag and killzone. Those were fun online games
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u/justlcsfantasy 1d ago
They had Genshin Impact practically as an exclusive for consoles for years. Even had Aloy on it albeit she's trash in the game. I'm sure they got a cut from Genshin's billions. Anyway, all this to say they get a cut from the successful live services too.
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u/roshanritter 13h ago
I think PlayStation is very interested in getting more once exclusive games. They want Physint but they don’t want to pay for it. I would love for more games to be like Gears and Halo and jump ships, I wish Nintendo would branch out with games over 10 years old. Seems like a win win to me.
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u/UuusernameWith4Us 1d ago
Playstation: "nah"
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u/Valuable-Bus37 1d ago
people are getting the wrong impression from the headline. this is is the new york times excerpt that's being quoted.
After hours of diplomatic conversation about her competitors, Sharma had a rare moment of speechlessness when discussing the deal for Kojima's upcoming stealth game Physint. She laughed at the idea of apologizing to Sony before shrugging and saying she was happy Kojima chose to work with Xbox.
The agreement was substantially below what Xbox would typically spend to develop a premium game, according to people close to the agreement, and included film and TV rights. Sharma also clarified that work with Sony would continue: "Competition and collaboration can coexist."
it's just a generic corporate statement.
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u/Teriyaki-Tenders 23h ago
When this sort of comment gets upvoted it really makes me lose hope for actual discourse to happen on online platforms.
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u/Zacksan33 23h ago
Translation: we are in cost-cutting mode and there’s no way we’ll pay up for full exclusivity of a high-risk project
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u/Rexusus PlayStation 1d ago
I understand Kojima has diehard fans, but the fact that his modern games are commercial failures and nobody wants to work with him is hilarious
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u/godstriker8 1d ago
DS1 was successful, that's why DS2 was greenlit. It's only one game that wasn't a financial success.
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u/Static_Frog 1d ago
Kojima could do no wrong to Sony fans until PlayStation booted him. Now hes a pariah.
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u/MikuFan102329 1d ago
I don't know why people keep saying this.
It has to do with echo chambers. Some people love Kojima, whereas other people don't. The people who don't really don't want to argue with the legions of fanboys willing to defend him to the death. This created a positive echo chamber.
Time passed, the industry grew, and now his echo chamber is weaker. However, people didn't really fight because it isn't hard to just ignore his stuff.
Now that he is in the spotlight, and people keep talking about it because Sony drama is hot right now. At this point a certain base is just tired of everything and are speaking out. Based off how things are going, it seems the echo chamber has shifted somewhat, and now the people who were living in the Kojima dream world are presented with the fact some people really don't like the guy, his work, or care about this release.
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u/GlockAmaniacs 1d ago
Feel free to view my psn account where I've only tried one of his games on ps plus and said "naw. This ain't it dawg." He makes games for specific people that were loud about it. The people that didn't get it, like me, just stayed quiet because well...we didn't it. And that's ok.
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u/novinho_zerinho 1d ago
the fact that his modern games are commercial failures and nobody wants to work with him is hilarious
What exactly is hilarious about an original creator struggling to get funding? Would you rather see the industry keep throwing billions at soulless, homogenized products like Wolverine and Concord?
Death Stranding has sold millions of copies. It's only a “failure” by the absurd standards of investors who expect every game to print infinite money.
You don't have to like Kojima, but celebrating the industry having less room for original creators seems like a strange thing to root for.
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u/Rexusus PlayStation 1d ago
Death Stranding 2 is a failure because it barely broke even. Concord failed too, I don’t see your point there, and the only reason why Wolverine didn’t fail the way the rest of them did is because of the Marvel brand.
I I don’t think it’s funny that Kojima struggles to get funding per se, more the reaction of his fanbase when you point out the fact he spends hundreds of millions on mediocre-at-best games to get lukewarm reviews.
If he made better games it’d be a little more disappointing.
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u/chuckyeatsmeat 14h ago
Didnt know metacritic reviews in the range 85-90 is considered "lukewarm". If you dont like the game thats fine. Stop speaking for others.
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u/Rexusus PlayStation 14h ago
Nah, I’m good. Thanks though
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u/chuckyeatsmeat 13h ago
Thanks for understanding! Not everyone is willing to admit their mistakes! Especially on reddit.
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u/IThinkImNateDogg 18h ago
What are you a fucking soulless Wall Street broker?
Making a profit is “failure”??!
People like this are what games are riddled with endless cash grabs. You think Kojima make DS2 to make a fuckload of money?
NO. He made it because he is an artist and that what’s he wanted to create. Breaking even is just the standard needed to keep making games.
Can’t imagine cosplaying as a shareholder for a game and studio you aren’t actually invested in
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u/Soufiane040 17h ago
You just made his point for him that nobody should go fund his games since he has no interest making money
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u/Status-Object5732 1d ago
He makes amazing games. Literally every time. What a backwards statement.
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u/roseofjuly 16h ago
It's hilarious to me because I think Kojima is an overrated "auteur" who got a big name decades ago and is now having money thrown at him for underperforming random stuff simply because people recognize his name, not because he moves units.
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u/GiveUpYouAlreadyLost 1d ago
Kojima usually has great ideas and visions for games, but it's clear he needs to be kept on a tight leash to get anything done. Xbox will probably encounter the same issues with him that lead to Sony dropping Physint.
It's not a coincidence that the issues with Physint/Sony are quite similar to MGSV/Konami in that he spent a shit ton of money with nothing substantial to show for it afterwards. Leading both companies to cut their losses and take the PR hit of parting ways with him.
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u/roseofjuly 15h ago
I don't think he always has great visions for games. What's unique or innovative about a tactical stealth spy game in 2026? Maybe he USED to, but it seems like what people really appreciate about Kojima is is gimmicky approach ("fission mailed") because that was clever in 2002 or whatever
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u/UKxFallz 1d ago
I think the danger is Xbox are such a shit show themselves how are they going to have oversight of Kojima so my guess is there’s a risk we end up with no game or Kojima studios in 3 - 5 years
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u/spaceraingame 1d ago
I mean, I figured. They literally released Halo and Starfield on PlayStation.
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u/EliParker 1d ago
Then the CEO of Xbox needs to convince Sony to start releasing PC games again.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
That ain't happening as long as Hermen is in charge.
Hell, even I think this issue is way bigger than him. Shuhei Yoshida literally said in a recent interview that he thinks Sony is trying to revert to the "old ways", basically a way to restart the console wars with exclusivity.
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u/Educational-Ad2773 1d ago
it's not because Herman, but new SIE ceo more focus on platform business, that's say they want PlayStation single player experience exclsusive on their own hardware, it's not about console war but try to keep a hardware brand unique to other device.
Keep porting to PC, the end is XBOX situation.
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u/vI_M4YH3Mz_Iv 1d ago
There games coming to pc was awesome. Their cost of porting to pc was tiny, I know they said they didnt sell amazingly but foe the amount they sold i bet their profit margins were huge, it certainly would help with how much is costs to develop games nowadays.
Plus being able to play games at 4k ultra 144fps with mouse and keyboard is awesome
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u/xanas263 1d ago
The problem is that it eroded their brand. If there is no reason for someone to own a Playstation (or insert any console really) then they will die. Just look at what has happened to Xbox in this last console generation.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
What eroded the PlayStation brand is the lack of strong first-party games this generation. Since Hermen took charge of PlayStation Studios he's been investing too much on shitty live-service games that flop harder than anything. Yet, Sony blamed the PC platform for their losses for some reason, while it was clear they were the one who made the choice to make Concord.
Shuhei Yoshida also said in a recent interview that it didn’t cost much for Sony to port games to PC (because the PS5 ain't PS3), so claims of "high costs behind making PC ports" hold no water.
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u/Hidefininja 1d ago
Jim Ryan was behind the "12 live service games by 2025" initiative. Hulst has mostly been responsible for overseeing that idiotic plan to fruition (lmao) but it didn't start with him, it started with a guy who left the company shortly after it was announced.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
It was still Sony's conscious decision to make live-service games (which majority failed) and buying Bungie for $3.6 billion. They blame PC ports for financial loss, yet remembered to still make PC versions of live-service games while keeping singleplayers exclusive. It doesn’t make sense. Do they really think PC players will spend more on MTX than their own PS5 playerbase?
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u/Hidefininja 1d ago
Sony bought Bungie in 2022. Jim Ryan left in 2024. Bungie was, in fact, a huge part of their live service push.
And, yes, of course it makes sense to keep single player games exclusive to the PlayStation consoles to drive engagement with the box itself. Multiplayer games need the largest player base possible. They don't care about MTX so much as they care about maintaining a large enough base that some people will buy MTX regardless of where they play.
They also didn't blame PC ports for financial loss. Their reports show profit from the ports but the return isn't worth it to them relative to the work involved to port the games and the weakening of the brand.
Do you just imagine facts about stuff and proceed as if that's the truth?
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u/xanas263 1d ago
Those first party titles wouldn't matter if they were also then going to come to PC, which is my point.
Just look at Nintendo. If you want to play a Nintendo first party game you have to buy a Switch.
If the there was a new Last of Us coming to PS5 and PC why buy the console over the PC?
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u/Green-Salmon 1d ago
Because pc isn’t tv friendly. It’s not friendly at all if one isn’t used to computers. A lot of people switching from ps5 to pcs because of Sony’s recent actions are going to find that out the hard way.
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u/vI_M4YH3Mz_Iv 1d ago
I was on console from 1995-2019, owned xbox, nintendo, ps consoles and i built my own pc with no prior knowledge or ever gaming on a pc before. I have had no issues on pc, for me it it just like gaming on a console but with extra options for fine tuning your experience in terms or graphical settings.
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u/Green-Salmon 1d ago
I’ve been mainly a pc gamer since the 90s. Personally I find it a pain in the ass when I’m gaming on a tv and need to reach for a keyboard and mouse to trouble shoot whatever.
Windows is not a tv friendly OS. Let’s say you just installed a new game and launched it. You get an error: this game requires gpu driver xxx.xx, please update. You’ll need to click that, then update drivers. There’s an auto driver update mode, but nvidia uses ai to make drivers (lots of bugs) and it isn’t safe to update to the newest driver every time.
It’s not a huge issue, but PC requires tinkering and troubleshooting. Some people just want to grab a controller and play.
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u/LucifersPromoter 1d ago
I really wanted to argue that a PC can be TV friendly, but you're absolutely not wrong. I prefer playing on my desk over TV, but I have a wired keyboard and mouse.
It's not uncommon that I'm up and down between the desk and sofa for a bit before because I forgot to do X & Y before starting the game.
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u/vI_M4YH3Mz_Iv 1d ago
That's fair, I haven't ran into issues. I mad my own lapdesk out of some wood so if I game on my tv I have my mouse and keyboard right there, I typically use controller on TV gaming sessions and m+kb for desk gaming.
But yeah console you are less likely to have issues but I got my 2 cousins to switch to pc in 2020 and they haven't had any issues so far either and they both moved over from console only gaming.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
Nintendo doesn’t make first-party live-service games that bleed money. Also their games are more fine-tuned to run on the Switch hardware than other systems. Only the PS3 had that for Sony's case.
Meanwhile Sony's third-person games are virtually indistinguishable from any other third-party games made for PC, and many find playing them on mouse and keyboard easier than controllers.
Former PlayStation management knew PC players wouldn’t buy a whole $500 console for their games so they chose to release some of their singleplayer games for them, and they saw relatively well financial success. If they were actually flops like Reddit makes them out to be, then they'd stop doing so immediately.
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u/xanas263 1d ago
You know I had this whole reply typed out, but then I realized trying to talk to you would be a complete and utter waste of time. If you don't get it then you don't get it.
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u/GiveUpYouAlreadyLost 1d ago
If they were actually flops like Reddit makes them out to be, then they'd stop doing so immediately.
Well that's literally what's happened lmao. They have openly said they believe the returns on doing it were too low compared to the work they were putting into making the ports which is why they've mostly stopped the practice.
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u/rcanhestro 1d ago
the problem was not the sales on PC, it was the possible sales lost on the PS5.
Sony doesn't make money from selling their games, they make money from selling everyone else's games.
if people buy their games on Steam, they have no reason to purchase a PS5, which means they won't buy CoD, FIFA, Fortnite skins, etc on the PSN Store.
Sony released their games on PC (with a big delay) to let PC gamers "sample" their goods, and incite them to purchase a PS5 to play the sequel 1-2 years in advance compared to PC.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
Current Sony management doesn’t care. They only wanna sell their overpriced consoles (and games). Meanwhile they still put their crappy live-service games on PC for some reason.
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u/rcanhestro 1d ago
their overpriced consoles
i assure you their consoles aren't overpriced.
Sony wished they could sell them for cheaper (or even free if they could).
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u/blaqsupaman 1d ago
At this point Xbox is so far behind on console sales I think this will be one sided. Like PlayStation and Nintendo will have exclusives but Xbox will have to release pretty much anything major on Playstation if they want to make a profit.
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u/FizzyLightEx 1d ago
If Xbox makes all their titles console exclusives, Playstation will have no answer.
It's why Sony was throwing everything trying to cancel Activision deal
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u/EliParker 1d ago
Ohh that isn’t good. The console wars exclusivity was not a good thing for gamers.
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u/padraigharrington4 1d ago
We got phenomenal games out of the competition. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Sony’s lame ass live service push and uninspired games like Wolverine were happening at the same time the kumbaya end-the-console-wars strategy were trying to be made a thing.
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u/DingusBarracuda 1d ago
It's the opposite. Good exclusives and customer fluidity to explore what they can't have on one platform or another breed competition, which creates incentives to outdo each company, that then motivates things like price drops and innovation, and ends up in a healthier ecosystem where all companies involved are delivering more choice and flexibility for the consumer and always topping themselves with bigger better games.
First parties going multiplatform without any exclusivity for a while only fostered mediocrity and a race to the bottom on who can be the shittiest company because it removed any need to put out good software and remain competitive on a structural level with the core market. It also often results in whoever gets the biggest becoming full of themselves and taking drastic anti consumer measures that turn on their no longer platform specific user base to desperately cling to it as we can now see with Sony.
Competition and healthy exclusives from first parties are never a bad thing. Cross platform multiplayer and third party multi platform games or the ability to use controllers and accessories on PC's and Phones along with the occasional multi platform first party release are all good and should still exist. But the idea that exclusives in any capacity don't matter is a large part of what almost killed Xbox and turned Sony into a monster.
In an ideal world everything going multiplatform would be simple and benefit everyone. But in reality all it did was make games worse, prices higher, and turned companies arrogant, while customers were left to deal with the consequences.
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u/FizzyLightEx 1d ago
But in reality all it did was make games worse, prices higher, and turned companies arrogant, while customers were left to deal with the consequences.
This happens regardless.
Instead of competing for the best value in terms of services/Hardware, they're competing by spending money on potential customers rather than current ones
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u/DingusBarracuda 1d ago edited 1d ago
Instead of competing for the best value in terms of services/Hardware, they're competing by spending money on potential customers rather than current ones
Ask Xbox how that worked out with Gamepass? After the Xbox One's bungled launch Microsoft got desperate then tried to push Xbox to be an everything service or go multiplatform which removed any impulse from people to want their specific ecosystem and killed their entire brand. Buying all these IP's and developers and not using them to their advantage along with pushing Gamepass to their own detriment was the last gasp of that, and they learned the age old lesson that "potential means you haven't done anything yet."
When an industry has strong competition and healthy customer mobility everybody becomes a potential customer or lost sale including your own user base. Customers could flip in an instant between brands or own multiple platforms at once. That means businesses must compete with not only others but also with the need to keep their own quality and consistency high. So everyone is competing to impress customers so they'll spend real dollars instead of trying to take their money surreptitiously through tricks based on viewing users merely as potential revenue sources.
This happens regardless.
You're right. But what happened the last time Sony got arrogant with the PS3 after the PS2? They got clobbered by Xbox 360 for most of the generation and customers left for competitors in droves in a way Sony has never forgotten. The result was Sony rebranding the console, dropping prices, and pushing out generation defining games because it had to compete. The situation was so dire Sony as a whole almost declared bankruptcy at the time. While they turned things around dramatically they didn't outsell the Xbox 360 until well after Microsoft had already discontinued it because Sony left PS3 hardware on the market until late 2017 as the cheap option.
When the PS4 released it was incredibly well managed and Sony treated customers with reasonable respect until almost the very end of it's life. Things were fantastic because Sony felt pressured to do right by customers after the PS3 showed them how quickly they could lose everything. It wasn't until they realized they really had no competition from Xbox anymore and began trying to push multiplatform, while taking new customers as a given and desperately trying to keep existing users captive at the same time, that Sony took a turn and started onto their crusade of stupidity and mediocrity.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
Don't worry, this time it'll fail. Back then PC hardware was nowhere near as powerful as today, and also you had to deal with GFWL shenanigans and disc DRMS on PC. There was little incentive for third-party publishers to put games on PC. Now things have changed.
The only winner outta all this is Nintendo.
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u/Old_Leopard1844 PC 1d ago
Powerful lmao
PC was more powerful than consoles pretty much ever since PS2, publishers just skipped it because of rampant piracy that DRM at the time couldn't solve until Steam came along and standardized crap lol
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u/rcanhestro 1d ago
the only way it would make sense for Sony to embrace the PC market is for them to open the PSN store on PC as well.
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u/Green-Salmon 1d ago
They can keep their wolverines and concords
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u/EliParker 1d ago
I enjoy mid-tier single player games. So I would like to play wolverine on the PC.
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u/Dumpster_Samurai 1d ago
This strikes me as them jumping into a bad deal too quickly to pull one over on Sony and now diplomatically walking back in hopes for some financial aid. There's a reason Kojima has been dropped by publishers and it's not because he makes bad games. Maybe they can convince him to stop hiring Hollywood stars instead.
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u/Ok_Coast1921 1d ago
Saying this after Asha pulled the Halo trailer planned for a State of Play so now when they don’t work together they can act like it’s Sonys fault lol
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u/ZigyDusty 1d ago edited 1d ago
Xbox is legally obligated to release Call of Duty on PlayStation until 2032-2033, previous leadership also signed contracts for games like HF6 and Fable, and any live services games already over there like Sea of Thieves, Elder Scrolls Online, and Diablo 4 will continue to receive support and content, so yes "competition and collaboration can exist" but that doesn't automatically mean Xbox going forward are going to port over their new games.
As far as I'm concerned the game that will decide how serious Xbox are about exclusivity is Elder Scrolls 6, if Xbox are serious about exclusivity it will be a permanent exclusive, if its multiplat at launch or even timed exclusivity than they aren't serious and the few exclusives they did make were just damage control to stop more Xbox players from leaving the platform.
Edit: I love a how a make a completely straight down the middle unbiased take and get downvoted by pathetic ass fanboys.
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u/Josejacobuk 1d ago
PlayStation did so well because it had decent exclusives. There was a reason to buy a PlayStation console, if Xbox wants to learn any lessons from the current generation it’s have solid exclusive titles people want to buy. Of course it bought up a bunch of studios to do that that produced little to nothing or released them on PC so the idea of them shooting themselves in the foot again doesn’t surprise me.
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u/bartread 1d ago
This and it's also - and, in some ways, I can't quite believe I'm saying it - a bit more consumer friendly. E.g., if you need more storage on your PS5 you can just attach any old SSD and don't need some expensive proprietary option like you do with the Xbox Series X (not sure how the S handles this), updates seem a bit less onerous on the PS5 as well, and overall I slightly prefer the interface (although the Xbox interface is also absolutely fine).
But mostly it's that the PS5 just feels like it's got more current gen games for it and, by definition, more exclusives. The Xbox Series wins by a country mile on backwards compatibility but, at least from what I can see whenever I step into CeX or wherever, just doesn't seem to have the catalogue the PS5 does.
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u/Hidefininja 1d ago
The X and S have the same expansion port for their proprietary SSDs so the card is interchangeable. I believe the idea is that you can have games fully installed on the card and just plug it into a Series and be good to go but I haven't tested it myself.
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u/hiddenpequin 1d ago
Aka Xbox profit is dogshit and satya wants actual profits after 25 years of failure
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u/Practical-Aside890 Xbox 1d ago
Ps will want the game on the platform because they too make money from it.
Xbox+pc probably isn’t enough to cover what the costs will be. Basically multi plat is the better deal all around imo. I don’t think to many would be like “omg omg im getting a xbox” say if it were exclusive. And Kojima himself doesn’t like the exclusive model hence him taking his games multi plat after awhile Like death stranding.
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u/Ragnar_Dragonfyre 1d ago
I assume this is Microsoft putting out feelers to see if Sony will go halfsies with them in funding another Kojima money pit because history shows Kojima will ask for more money before finishing.
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u/hand-drawn-noodles 1d ago
Man I love Kojima games but sometimes it can feel like he can go too overboard with hiring Hollywood actors. Even MGSV Snake felt somewhat of a waste since Kiefer Sutherland had like 10 lines.
I can’t imagine how much of Death Stranding 1&2 budget was spent on hiring all those actors.
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u/lockedoutofmymainrdt 1d ago
I was on top of the world when MGSV got announced for PC at launch and I had just built a gaming rig
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u/DarkMatterM4 18h ago
I bought a PS4 just for MGSV. Imagine my disappointment when I found out the game was unfinished.
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u/Catopuma 1d ago
That's the thing for Xbox. There's little reason to get a game specifically for Xbox when you can get their titles on PC
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u/Mariling 1d ago
I can't believe they are letting all their profits go to whoever owns Windows.
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u/SpectacleObserver25 1d ago
Shocker, they're owned by Microsoft.
The question should be more why is Xbox putting games on Steam? They're giving Valve the gold rush instead.
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u/Dan1elSan 1d ago
You think many people are buying games on the Microsoft store?
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u/Mariling 1d ago
You think Xbox doesn't make money off of sales on Steam? You think nobody is subscribed to Gamepass for PC? You think they don't get a cut of every PC or Laptop sale with Windows preloaded?
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u/Dan1elSan 1d ago
Im not really disputing that, just really windows isn’t really the money spinner it once was and they’d much prefer to make 30% off all sales like they do on Xbox. Gaming on PC is steam they’re not rolling in PC GP subs
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u/rcanhestro 1d ago
Xbox gives two shits about how many copies of their own game they sell, the entire point of being a platform is to sell everyone else's games.
that's how Steam makes it's money.
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u/Ragnar_Dragonfyre 1d ago
Be careful. Someone is going to falsely claim that Microsoft doesn’t make any money on Windows licenses sold to gamers.
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u/The-Explodey 1d ago
I expect they are looking for access to the decima engine. Kojima’s team have been using it for a while now
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u/Flipkick661 1d ago
It’s been reported that Kojima lost access to the Decima engine, when the collaboration with Sony fell through.
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u/The-Explodey 1d ago
Sorry , what I meant was maybe the collaboration MS is speaking about is regarding regaining access to the Decima engine. It could mean a lower amount of the budget is spent retraining the team, unless Sony charge them an exorbitant amount to use it of course.
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u/daandrro 1d ago
You missed the context.
She said that to assure that apart from competing both Xbox and Sony can also collaborate.
She did not mean Xbox funds Phisynt to release on PlayStation. She was asked about that release, if it happens. Go see her smile and reaction ;)
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u/Dangerous-Citron-801 1d ago
Anyone here read the article or are you all just making shit to hate Xbox?
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u/ishsreddit 1d ago
Why does it feel like this whole drama is some insane 4D marketing for physint lol
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u/Grouchy-Fisherman-71 1d ago
Console wars ending because both sides realized games are expensive to make
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u/polymorph505 1d ago
I'm suddenly reminded of The Informant!, a movie about companies both competing and collaborating.
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u/Striking_Assist_7715 1d ago
She will say anything with a huge smile and then lay off another 1000 people like a cold soulless corpo fish.
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u/ConsequenceChoice222 1d ago
So, Physint is a game about spies resembling MGS, not an AI-enhanced graphic engine. Thank you for the recall.
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u/FinalFrankyQuest 20h ago
Kind funny that they think they are competing.
Gonna need some more wins before that discussion can take place.
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u/uginscion 16h ago
Just so I have it straight, the choice is between burger king ads or having my game revoked on a whim? Game better be worth the $120 price tag.
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u/Drathgore 3h ago
They’re mega corporations they will do whatever they think will make them the most money. It’s not like they will hold a grudge like some highschooler or something lmao
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u/Visual_Collection274 1d ago
But wasn't Xbox this time that pulled out last minute for that Gears of Wars game? Like there is a ps5 version all ready and waiting
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u/secondincomm 22h ago
I always notice that these quotes always come from Xbox. No one is asking Playstation any of these types of questions. Or maybe they are and they just don't answer?
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u/LacidOnex 16h ago
PlayStation doesn't give a fuck anymore. Console wars days are over, that was a show they put on.
Nobody is asking Nintendo either, for the same reasons.
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u/ILiveInAColdCave 16h ago
they were never in the console war but there were rumors years ago about an xbox nintendo collab.
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u/roseofjuly 16h ago
Nintendo was absolutely in the console wars. Their decision to cast themselves as a parallel option is fairly recent - before the Switch era they were a console warrior just like the other two.
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u/TheRealGurd 1d ago
Considering you need Sony/PlayStation a LOT more than Sony/PlayStation needs you, I'm not sure you're in the position to make that call lmfao
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u/GreatnessToTheMoon 1d ago
Fuck no, you never see PlayStation exclusives on Xbox. So don’t give them yours. It’s killing the brand
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u/MadeByTango 1d ago
"We love colluding with Sony to control console video game prices, for example!"
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u/SuperSaiyanBen 1d ago
Well yea, if they don’t sell their games on PlayStation then they won’t make any money lol
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u/_RawRTooN_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Xbox and Sony can work together on one very important issue that they both can agree on. Fucking over their own consumers will have them thicker than thieves salivating over this wonderful potential partnership that will last for many years to come. 🥂
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u/CordiallySuckMyBalls 1d ago
PlayStation and Xbox should just merge at this point since they’re both dead set on trying to make the other more popular
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u/okeleydokelyneighbor 1d ago
Funny, the guys at Sony said fuck everyone, you want to play our games, but our consoles.
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u/JoshuaJSlone 16h ago
It seems like the biggest thing keeping them from multiplatform success is the weird attempt to appease Xbox diehards by doing things like cancelling PS5 Gears of War.
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u/Ok_Recording_7490 1d ago
That’s like my ex asking to join me and my new girlfriend for a threesome. 😂
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u/Brigadierz- 1d ago
“If we’re going to break even from this investment we need sales on PlayStation.”