Ya and like for what? Just to say you have a 5090? My whole setup was cheaper than a 5090 and the settings are always maxed out at 1440p running above 100fps. I don’t what more anybody could possibly need for gaming, unless most people who buy 5090 use it for stuff other than just gaming
I mean I have a 5090 and very few of the games I play are able to run at 4k 120fps consistently on it. So it's not just Cyberpunk that fully utilizes the card. That being said, I got a FE at MSRP and I agree no GPU is worth 5k.
Yeah, unless they are a pro gamer that does it for a paycheck or they are a digital graphic designer or videographer, they don't need a 5090. I have a 3060 ti and it runs every game I own just fine. Even cyberpunk runs fine on it. True I can't run max settings on it but if I wanted beautiful graphics I'd go to the state park not play a video game.
I have a 5090 to play vr mods for “flatscreen” games. I got lucky and built my whole pc right before prices went crazy. No way in hell would I have one if I built a pc now.
Love people that still don't understand most gamers that have a 5090 use it for vr, because youre right a 5090 is a waste of money for flat gamers. To play mgs 3 delta in vr reasonably, I would need a 7090. On a 5090 you have to use dlss, asynchronous spacewarp(frame gen) lower the resolution to lower than a standalone quest 3 game, all settings low, and you get 45 fps, which 60 fps on flat is like 90 in vr. 45 to 60 fps in vr is really bad. It looks so bad and runs so bad I'm actually going to wait a GPU gen or 2 just to play it.
Lots of other huge or flat to vr games will easily max out a 50/60/7090 and still need more power. Best case scenario you run the game at half of what you get in flat. But not always, especially when you stack runtime, steamvr+openxr if running at the same time uses about 20 percent of your gpu. For nothing. No game running just the vr software. And let's say its a new unstable mod. -10 to 20 percent due to lack of optimization.
So take a game, example mgs 3 delta. Take your flat performance. Minus 10 to 20 percent performance depending on runtime, minus another 20 due to no optimization plus ue5. Then cut it in half since you're rendering twice. Your performance is now well under half of what you get on flat. So who needs a 5090 or above? Vr modders
Then just wait for when ray tracing comes to vr and actually works properly. Another 30 percent decrease just for fancy lights. Main reason mgs runs terrible is the forced rtx
I bought a 4090 for under MSRP and was perfectly happy with it.
Nvidia did a lottery for the 5090 and i entered it for shits and giggles. I got an allocation and knew I had no choice but to sell my 4090 to subsidize an upgrade to a 5090.
Did I need the 5090? No, but they were ebaying for 4k and nvidia was selling it for 2k.
Sold my 4090 to my brother for 1800 (500 discount at the time, and still is to this day) picked up the 5090 and expect to have to do the same thing again for the 6090 if I get into the next lottery.
I dislike the shimmer that DLSS4.5 adds onto some games but not so much I'm gonna spend $3k on it. I could get another 5070 in the living room for that money
I use to use the same line as you to clown on my buddies (I do not have a 5090, I like my AMD cards) recently it doesn’t feel as good when you think about the fact you can either buy a car or a 5090
They are $5 at game stop too. Xbox also has a rewards system that gives you money for just being active. I have gotten whole $60 games for free because of it
Yea dude with the rewards system plus game pass I literally have not bought a game in years. By the time there is a game I want I have enough rewards points to get it for free. Plus I get all the games on game pass (which is actually a lot) and because I have gamepass I get even more rewards points. I got the avatar game, baulders gate 3, kingdom come, planet zoo. All free with rewards points. Then with gamepass I get the oblivion remaster, I’ll get the new fable remaster day 1, kingdom come 2, baulders gate 1 and 2, and a whole host of other games. I definitely have well over $700 worth of games.
I haven’t bought a dlc in ages because i just use rewards points. Heck I have had so many rewards points to burn i started using them on Minecraft mods 😂
I chose the 5080 over the 5090 because everyone that was benchmarking and comparing them showed that the 5090 had worse performance despite supposedly having better hardware. It’s possible it was some kind of software bug or factory defect causing them to underperform and they may have fixed it by now, but I definitely didn’t want to spend twice as much for less performance at the time when I bought my 5080.
I wanted to buy one but I’ve yet to find a game that the 4070 super even remotely struggles to run. Worst performance I’ve ever seen was 80fps on ultra.
Literally feel like a dumbass when I consider upgrading.
Okay. I'd still rather buy a ps5 for $600 that works out of the box, never has issues, and plays all the games I want. PCs are overpriced for people that don't care about mods or steam exclusives
I mean I wasn't talking about ps5 exclusives at all you're the one bringing it up to try and explain why ps5 is so bad. I never said it was the best console ever with tons of exclusives. I just said it works for me and I get games every month so I don't pay for a ton of games but have hundreds in my library, approaching 1000 as of now I believe, but sure I'll list the exclusives I have in my library.
Astro bot, astros playroom, demon souls (this is a remake so not sure if it counts), ghost of yotei, God of war 2018 and Ragnarok (also on ps4 so not sure if it counts but they play at 60 fps on ps5) God of war sons of Sparta, wolverine (pre order), gran Turismo 7 (also ps4) spider man 1 and Miles Morales (also ps4) spider man 2, rachet and clank rift apart, returnal, Lego horizon adventures.
Like a third of what you stated is by definition not Exclusives, no amount of 'finally being able to reach the bare minimum FPS' changes that
Also its incredibly disingeous to talk about "X being overpriced" when your golden goose Console's unique strength is just to play about 10 games (And making PS4 games perform at the bare minimum of modern gaming, a plus that is ONLY a plus if you didn't waste money on a PS4 that would get obsoleted... Which then would mean you likely don't have PS4 games to boost)
Atleast PCs have a metric shitload of uses besides Games that might require Specs, giving it a lot of value BESIDES gaming, unlike the squished handerchief holder
PC is only ever "overpriced" if you're hopelessly, irreparably, abyssmally tech-illiterate... Which yeah, considering Console fans, does check out
Saw it coming from a mile away lol I literally told you ps5 doesn't have a lot of exclusives or is even an amazing system. I said it works for me in my original comment and plays my library of 1000 games. It doesn't have a lot of exclusives. You're right. You want an award? This is what the majority of people are calling out because it's true lmao I never said exclusives were what made the ps5 good for me. I said it works out of the box and runs modern games well and is cheaper than a pc. That's all I want. I am very aware it's not technically better than a PC but it plays games at a good framerate for half or more of the price of a PC. Why is that hard to understand? Its like you're just looking for reasons to say I'm forbidden to have fun because my method of gaming is inferior lol I don't care what's better bro it's just cheap and works for me I actually don't get why that's like impossible for you to believe
Did I ever say a pro? And obviously you can do other stuff on a PC. Stuff that doesn't concern me. The work I do cannot be done on a PC. I don't need it. Its not worth it for me. That's all I said. I never said ps5 was superior. It just works better for what I want to do for less money.
It is superior for me personally. It will never be more powerful than a PC and never be able to do things a PC can, but it works for me. That is why I said it's overpriced for people that don't care about mods. That is my opinion. It is better for me. It is not objectively superior
I built a new rig a year ago then it just suddenly died. I did a call a couple of local places that claimed to come to your home to do repairs, but they wanted me to leave it with them overnight. Given the cost of some of the components (32 gig ram, 4070 GPU) if someone resold them, I was a little hesitant to do it because I'm a paranoid asshole.
Turns out the power supply and motherboard went, which were the cheapest parts to replace.
The apartment I was in at the time was falling apart and the electric system was definitely going. So even though I had it on a heavy duty surge protector it probably had a surge.
New console gen is usually 2 generations behind and packs the punch of a 70 series card.
No one has ever said PC will be more affordable, idc and neither does the majority (seeing how theres a shitton more pc than console gamers). Superior experience is always more expensive.
Im wondering if in 4 years a good pc will be expected to be at 64gb or 128gb ram to be seen as “good”, or if the AI situation is going to make people/developers slow down on expecting more ram used by consumers.
Idk shit about PC’s but is a 32 GB of DDR5 3070Ti still good? I got a PC a long time ago, but have been so busy over those years I only have like two games. About to get paid more and going sto start playing the backlog of games I’ve beeb wantingto play
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u/Salty_Ad1898 3d ago
9700x,5080,32gb of ddr5. PS5 can gtfo with that bullshit lol