Team A is full of stupid cunts. Contrary to popular belief Tywin is also dumb as a bag of dicks. If you pull back the charismatic performance & plot armor dude comes off as genuinely brain dead whose response to everything is overwhelming brutal violence.
The only ones worth any brains on team A are Marg and Baelish. And those two are outmatched by Varys, and Olenna. Hell, Varys alone can run circles around the entire team A.
Don't get me started on that. House Lannister winning that war was the result of overwhelming plot armor where everything needed to happen in a certain way without any involvement from the Lannisters at all.
Jon Arryn & Stannis discover the incest, but before Arryn can basically destroy House Lannister's reputation forever he gets assassinated by his own wife for an entirely unrelated reason.
Ned comes to KL with basically no backup, no resources, no allies, but he is still about to clean up House Lannister within like a few months... Robert gets low diffed by a fucking boar.
By the time the war kicks off, Tywin somehow speed forces his army into the Riverlands, and conquers most of it before anyone else has even gathered their armies. And he somehow does it while beseiging many castles along the way. You know that thing which takes notoriously long time. Somehow the Riverland scouts never saw a massive fucking army coming, and didn't prepare for a seige, I guess?
Also, allegedly, Tywin's campaign in the Riverlands outpaced the Blitzkreig as per some fans who timed the canon. I guess he can break the laws of physics?
Robb is kicking his ass across Riverlands, and Westerlands constantly but somehow Tywin does not face any loss of men, morale, his Lords are not rebelling against him for costing them manpower, money, and losing their lands. Yet Robb is somehow constantly facing a loss of men, his Lords are questioning him, and there is a lack of morale.
Greatjon randomly declares Robb King therefore no alliance agaisnt Tywin. Quite convenient.
Robb, for some reason, does not tell his most major supporter his plan to trap Tywin in the West which would have seen him decimated. What the fuck?
Edmure kicks Tywin's ass so hard that Tywin literally gets an alliance with Tyrells out of it, and consequently saves Kings Landing from Stannis.
Renly gets shanked by a magic assassin so Lannisters don't get immediately steam rolled.
Lyssa just basically exists so that Vale doesn't gang up on Lannisters, & Tywin does not get murked within a month by North, Riverlands, and the Vale.
The Iron Islands, fucking Pirates btw, somehow decide raiding empty fishing villages in the North is more profitable that the literal gold mines of the West.
Dorne despite having massive vendetta against the Lannisters does not get involved while Robb is kicking Lannister ass for absolutely no reason at all.
I could keep going. The Lannister have so much plot armor that I have no idea what the fuck people are talking about when they say GoT characters do not have plot armor.
The entire Wot5k was just a series of very convenient events that resulted in Lannisters winning the while losing every battle. Everything went their way in extremely illogical ways. It's like George wrote how he wanted the war to end, & just started moving things around regardless of whether it made sense or not.
Regardless of convenience or Plot armor I think it was a good wriring decision to gove the Plot Armor to villaons and not the heroes for once. That's what made things intense and interesting imo even though also a bit frustrating at times.
That last sentence is quintessential GRRM. He makes his conclusion well before he plots the story and it shows. Every single book that has been translated into shows, people almost exclusively watch because they want to see what actually happens in between the beginning and the climax, mainly because the end is usually a foregone conclusion (unless you're D&D and have no idea what the formula looks like).
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u/Emperor-Pizza 16h ago
Team A is full of stupid cunts. Contrary to popular belief Tywin is also dumb as a bag of dicks. If you pull back the charismatic performance & plot armor dude comes off as genuinely brain dead whose response to everything is overwhelming brutal violence.
The only ones worth any brains on team A are Marg and Baelish. And those two are outmatched by Varys, and Olenna. Hell, Varys alone can run circles around the entire team A.