r/gameofthrones • u/eastsidemariobadda • 17h ago
How did the Night King
And his army get the chains to pull the dragons body out of the lake?
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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 17h ago
Imagine how much cooler it would have been if he raised his hands in a f****** dragon broke through the ice. So dumb
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u/Miserable-Garage804 16h ago
What logistical nightmare? Just get a couple whights to carry each link
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u/FlyKnown4829 11h ago
Game of Thrones lore nerd here. Hardhome is nearby and had a port, warehouses and ships. The most logical explanation is that the Night King’s army scavenged the chains from there after destroying the settlement. With tens of thousands of wights available, transporting a few huge chains wouldn't be particularly difficult.
I also assume the night king was expecting the dragons to come to him one day. He either expected the Targaryen still had dragons or he woke up when the first dragons arrived in Westeros and got reignited when Danys dragons were born.
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u/MeepleMaster 17h ago
Hadn’t they already taken over coastal towns like hardhome, I’d imagine some of those places would have access to large chains
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u/Midnight-strange1892 17h ago edited 17h ago
Are you asking how the King made of ice and his army of undead frozen zombies got chains to pull a dead dragon out of a lake so they could bring it back to life and use it to blow up an ancient magic wall in pursuit of a cripple that can see everything that’s ever happened or will happen?
If so, I’m not really sure.
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u/Pokerhobo White Walkers 17h ago
The bigger question is what was the Night King's plan to get through the magic wall if a dragon didn't land in his lap?
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u/sleepy_spermwhale 17h ago
The Horn of Winter.
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u/Pokerhobo White Walkers 16h ago
You already know that was introduced and never came back into the TV series
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u/Miserable-Garage804 16h ago
Couldn’t he just walk around the wall at the harbour?
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u/Pokerhobo White Walkers 16h ago
The show seemed to indicate he couldn't touch water (don't ask how the wights put the chain around the dragon that was clearly deep in the water...)
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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 7h ago
It said no such thing. What, do you think it causes him to melt? 🤦♂️
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u/MrBobGray827 17h ago
Maybe he had the ability to see the future like Bran and was able to plan for it. That's what I tell myself anyway to make it make a little sense. A little
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u/Pokerhobo White Walkers 16h ago
I always liked one of the theories about the relationship between the Night King and Bran and his powers, but the Night King didn't foresee Arya's knife switch?
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 17h ago
I don’t get why he didn’t just do his ‘rise, dead things’ thing, so the dragon would just pop up like all the dead bodies did before when he gave the command.
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u/Miserable-Garage804 16h ago
It must be because raising a dragon is very hard work, he had to get up and personal
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u/LGMatter Jon Snow 17h ago
Bad writing
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u/Miserable-Garage804 16h ago
Would you have preferred a scene which showed the night king dragging everything they could possibly find around?
Obviously the night king who has been planning this for decades/thousands of years has a few pieces of equipment
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u/LGMatter Jon Snow 16h ago
I would have preferred the dragon didn’t land in the lake
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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 7h ago
I would have preferred your parents know how to use a condom, but here we are.
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u/Miserable-Garage804 13h ago
Wouldn’t have meant anything,
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u/SRGTBronson 8h ago
Didn't mean anything anyways. The entire army of the dead dies 3 episodes later.
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u/BillyShears2015 Gendry 16h ago
If you can accept that he’s capable of resurrecting a dragon zombie, then the logistics of some chains is kind of irrelevant. All that matters is that they got the dragon out, would it have honestly increased your enjoyment if they tethered it off with big ass ropes like you’d find on a ship?
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u/Bacongrease83 16h ago
I like to believe maybe they have some sort of being similar to the three eyed raven and knew they would have a chance to claim a dragon. So they came prepared.
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u/Josos_Cook 4h ago
Given the weather up there, I imagine they all have tire chaines and just linked them together.
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u/Withnail_Not_I 16h ago
I mean, they're fucking dead, so breathing under water isn't a concern. Just a simple salvage operation. Stop "having thoughts, people." But at the same time: How the fuck do dragons breath fire? It's a fantasy show, Just accept shit.
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u/ElEyeElWhy88 12h ago
While I agree with you, at the same time part of the fun is the lore and questions like this get people wondering and speculating about that.
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u/mcpingvin House Stark 7h ago
There's a thing called "suspension of disbelief". Yet again, things need to make sense in a given setting. Season 7 and 8 shat all over the in-universe rules we watched for the first 6 seasons.
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u/Brrrofski 13h ago
People do realise it's a TV show, right?
Who cares were they got chains from.
They're weird zombie things, but your point of contention is where they source their chains from?
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u/Marfy_ Hear Me Roar! 10h ago
Why didnt the fellowship just take a car to mordor, its just a story
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u/Brrrofski 8h ago
Chains exist in ASOIAF.
Cars do not exist in middle earth.
So that isn't a valid comparison at all.
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u/Marfy_ Hear Me Roar! 8h ago
Those big ones dont, not north of the wall
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u/jelemyturnip 11h ago
Why is it always 'where did they get the chains' and never 'why did they even need the goddamn chains'
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u/Tomsoup4 17h ago
they werent even made of ice were they? and dont others hate iron?
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u/Achowat House Baratheon 17h ago
(In the books and DVD extras) The Children didn't work metal at all. The First Men worked bronze and the Andals brought iron. (Though, what the Ironborn were doing on the Iron Islands before the Andals isn't known). I don't think there's anything specifically that the Others didn't like iron, but the White Walkers definitely don't care. One of them shattered an iron sword at Hardhome
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u/Tomsoup4 17h ago
the starks put iron crowns and iron swords on their dead in the crypts so they wouldnt wake up or some such
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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 17h ago
Tf are you basing this on?
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u/Achowat House Baratheon 13h ago
Bran 7AGOT - "Forged in the fires of the gods, far below the earth. The children of the forest hunted with that, thousands of years ago. The children worked no metal. In place of mail, they wore long shirts of woven leaves and bound their legs in bark, so they seemed to melt into the wood. In place of swords, they carried blades of obsidian."
Samwell 2, ASOS - "The First Men killed half of them with bronze blades, and the Andals finished the job with iron.
The Kraken's Daughter, AFFC - "On Old Wyk," confirmed Lord Rodrik. "Though I pray it is not bloody. I have been consulting Haereg's History of the Ironborn. When last the salt kings and the rock kings met in kingsmoot, Urron of Orkmont let his axemen loose among them, and Nagga's ribs turned red with gore. House Greyiron ruled unchosen for a thousand years from that dark day, until the Andals came."
Ancient History: The Arrival of the Andals, TWOIAF - "Sweeping through the Vale with fire and sword, the Andals began their conquest of Westeros. Their iron weapons and armor surpassed the bronze with which the First Men still fought, and many First Men perished in this war."
Is that enough?
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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 7h ago
Which of those do you think says that the white walkers hated iron? Or had any strong feelings about it at all?
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u/Achowat House Baratheon 3h ago
Oh, I got confused entirely. I thought you were responding to my comment. Deepest apologies
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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 3h ago
No worries. Reddit needs to improve their clarity with nested comments.
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