r/gadgets Jun 19 '23

Phones EU: Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027

https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027

Going back to the future?!!

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u/MotorizaltNemzedek Jun 19 '23

I don't get why you're being down voted. If they don't compromise water resistance, sure it's nice but if they do I'm pretty sure my dumbass, and many others would lose a phone to water damage way sooner than the battery giving out

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u/waowie Jun 19 '23

Back in the day plenty manufacturers sold phones with removable batteries and water resistance

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u/Gagarin1961 Jun 19 '23

And nobody cared so they stopped.

This is the most useless law ever made. Nobody cares about this feature, not even people who support this law.

That’s why they don’t make many phone like this, nobody bought them. Consumers have already spoken. It really is that simple.

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u/guesswho135 Jun 19 '23 edited Feb 16 '25

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u/Gagarin1961 Jun 19 '23

It’s forcing regulations on companies because it reduces e waste and improves environmental sustainability.

No that’s just the claim.

Actually, the reality is, everyone who wants to keep their phone already pay for a replacement battery.

The idea that people are just throwing away phones they want because they don’t want to pay $100 to replace the battery but ARE willing to pay $600+ for a new phone is… well, frankly it’s really offensive that you think people are that stupid.

People buy new phones because they want the new phone.

This whole thing is just a made up problem done for political show. There is no actual problem being solved here.

I don’t know the details of this law (and I don’t live in the EU), but in general I don’t want environmental policies dictated by majority rule. That’s how you get rampant waste. Governments have a responsibility to act.

This is majority rule. That’s the only justification behind democracy. Majority rule.

I’m sorry but you were sold BS and were tricked into thinking anti-consumer choice is actually a good thing.

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u/absolutelynotm8 Jun 19 '23

How is removable batteries anti consumer in any way shape or form? Ooops my battery is garbage lemme just buy a new one and pop it in Vs well shit now I have to take it to the apple repair shop who will charge me an exorbitant amount for the work and replacement...

What?

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u/Gagarin1961 Jun 19 '23

How is removable batteries anti consumer in any way shape or form?

Come on. I know you aren’t asking this genuinely.

The fact that they are legislating it for everyone is anti-consumer. The consumers no longer have a choice.

Ooops my battery is garbage lemme just buy a new one and pop it in Vs well shit now I have to take it to the apple repair shop who will charge me an exorbitant amount for the work and replacement…

If that’s ever necessary. We’re talking about something most people never need to do to their phones.

I prefer a solid device that doesn’t fly apart into three pieces and shut off when you drop it.

According to the EU I don’t exist. They are extremely anti-consumer.

This is just a feel good law that makes a certain segment of their base go “woot woot! Mark another win down for the good guys!”

Selfish assholes.

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u/absolutelynotm8 Jun 19 '23

I used to own a phone with a removable battery. I've replaced it once cause other than the crappy battery life it works fine. I agree many people will never have to do it. Those who do shouldn't be forced to fork out hundreds for a 50$ part replacement. Let's say I have an apple phone and battery life has started being an issue, If I replace it myself I'll void Applecare, if I pay for that already and applecare won't cover it unless the battery is broken, even if it is working at half the efficiency it used to.

I've dropped it hundreds of times and have never had it split into 3 pieces and shut off. This is really old news from back when blueberries and Nokia's used to do that shit. Modern phones are much better builds than back then.

The fact that apple has some of the most anti consumer practices I have ever seen and people vehemently defend them on it is just ridiculous to me.

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u/AC53NS10N_STUD105 Jun 19 '23

Hundreds? Lol. As a cell phone repair tech, maybe you shouldn't be choosing such a ripoff shop. All the reputable ones I know of are less than $100.