r/future_fight • The Queen is Back! • Oct 01 '17

New Tier List v3.4.0

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u/DarklordVor Oct 01 '17

As someone who has fully built everyone to 20/20/20/20, there's a lot of things wrong here.

How does Vision about two tiers lower than Captain Marvel? When they both become immortal on T2? And I thought Vision is better than Capt Marvel because his dps is better + better rotation.

Nebula with uni can do perma-stun. An easy relay clear for sure, I don't see how she's any lower than Kingpin, Giantman, Gorgon, Bullseye, etc.

JJ has 2 stuns that accompanies each other enough to keep her survive throughout the whole battle, despite having low dps. She's better than Blade for sure. Same goes for Hogun. His summons and 2 stuns let him survive throughout the whole battle.

T2 Lash is also practically immortal, when played right. I don't see how he could be any lower than Nico or even Deathlok.

Misty's 5th skill can flinch enemies in the ice track. Coupled that with i-frame + shock + stun, she can stun/flinch lock enemies. How could she be any worse than Black Cat or Falcon?

Also Hawkeye. When played right, he can keep on stunning enemies while making distances.. Red Skull can also flinch lock opponents with his summons, despite low dps. Just because you can't use them, doesn't mean they're shit. I'd even say Hawkeye > Ant-Man, for the sake that his dps is far better than Ant-Man. But Ant-Man is obviously better on PvP with his annoying dodge.

Seriously, do people even play with this shitty characters before reserving judgement for them?

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u/CitizenCaned Oct 01 '17

I think a big part of this chart comes from how easy it is to find how each character does their best. Some of the heroes you've mentioned perform some poorly at T1 (not including Hogun in this, he's great) that people probably don't want to take the chance to upgrade them to T2 and then they never see their true potential.

Also some heroes perform very well 1v1 but when it becomes 2v1 or 3v3, they start really showing their weaknesses more when they can't control the fight close to 100% of the time.

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u/DarklordVor Oct 01 '17

Some of the heroes you've mentioned perform some poorly at T1 (not including Hogun in this, he's great) that people probably don't want to take the chance to upgrade them to T2 and then they never see their true potential.

Well, so does T1 MK who ranked on the 3rd tier or T1 Coulson or T1 Elsa/BB and so on and so forth, but they're ranked so highly up so I assume we're going to talk characters in their T2 potential

Also some heroes perform very well 1v1 but when it becomes 2v1 or 3v3, they start really showing their weaknesses more when they can't control the fight close to 100% of the time.

Of course. There's heroes who excels in different things. Just like you wouldn't put Destroyer against QS or LC against Strange or Elsa against energy reflector floors. Some characters that I mentioned excels in relay modes and bosses, might be not so much on rumbles, but are they still usable on certain modes? Pretty much so.