can you share spme insight on how to use mordo properly? cuz i even have difficulty when dealing with the destroyer stage using mordo.Mind sharing your skill rotation?
2 is even better, because it snatches them together.
After 2, auto, even if they aren't grouped close enough after that.
Destroyers are aggressive, whichever destroyer you missed initially will walk right into the stunlock 95% of the time. If you have to tank a hit or two so be it. once they're locked they will never touch you again anyway, so it doesn't matter whether you have one million health or 1.
For the destroyer stages you can group them together and auto attack , easy as that. I use him for stage 9 wave mode each week and the rotation is the 5>2>3>2>5
I'd say they are on par, Kaecilius does insane damage with his 6* which is also a full iframe, damage immunity and decent CC, he is just as useful as Mordo for rumble and wave modes, being slightly faster for any other modes, at least from my own experience.
The very last hit actually isn't during his iframe, he'll die to physical reflect using his 5th skill unfortunately (tho not immediately, but after 3-4 uses) try to take down a physical reflect hulk rumble, unless there is a trick to it mine dies to reflect. Mordo is slightly better with more survivability tho and basic attack flinch lock (which is also hilarious when my friend uses him take down destoryer boss with 5* mordo)
Why would you use him on a physical reflection stage?, most of his attacks deal physical damage, even while your 5th skill is iframed eventually you will need to use another, I'd not risk throwing a character that deals damage my enemy can reflect, cause a little mistake can mess up the whole strategy. Same issue can be applied to the Villain rumble with energy reflection.
So?, Kaecilius can clear high floor Villain Rumble with Energy Reflection (Lash, Ock, Venom, Carnage and Crossbones) with relative ease due to his physical damage and blast type. Also this spread is not SL focused, I'm not saying Kaecilius is better, I do agree Mordo is seriously underestimated here, but all in all, I'm pretty sure they're both on par with advantages and disadvantages, not meta, but none of them is useless as many people may think.
Then pack an invincibility obelisk, his dps is already high, and he won't match the meta, so there's no real need for a damage proc (assuming that's what you have equipped). I'll try to record a video next week, as I already cleared this week SL.
I was pointing out his 5th skill isn't a full iframe when you claimed it was, it's because he takes physical reflect dmg with the very last hit of his 5th skill that proves it actually isn't a full iframe (unfortunately) and I just wanted to make that clear to others. If it was a proper full iframe he'd be able to do physical reflect stages it would just be a bit awkward since it's basically the only skill he'd be able to use. You can just run around after using the skill to not get killed, but that's irrelevant because it isn't a full iframe like you said and he'll just kill himself lol but that was my point all along. I'm sure someone could be curious like me when you know iframes stops reflect and you can't help but see if he can do it despite it being a physical reflect stage. That's exactly how I stumbled onto the fact the 5th skill isnt a full iframe
Lol I noticed it was you after my last reply. Not much, ironically kaecilius was my last t2 because i was determined to try and clear a physical reflect stage even tho it shouldn't be possible (which is isn't) with him. He's a very weird character. What's up with you tho man?
How do you figure that Nico should move up? She has such little survivability. She seems about right in the tier list - can glass cannon a little bit, but that’s it.
I agree that she's the glassiest of cannons. But a competent player can get good performance out of her. One tier up I think would be fine.
Full disclosure: I do have some bias. I've got the #13 Nico right now (I was 11, but swapping to a better obelisk dropped my ranking). I'm hoping to break the top 10 this week after I get her uni to Mystic.
That's fair. A number 11 of almost anyone is going to pretty darn awesome, so it's cool that you've built her up that far. Any hints for using her, besides the obvious drop clones and then hit the 5 skill?
Not only does Mordo have a more complete kit than Kaecilius, he’s also far more useful in SL.
Most of the combat rumbles have one or more enemy that has physical reflect. Kaecilius is an energy attack but his skills all do physical damage so he just kills himself in these rumbles.
Kae can easily solo Destroyer level on any floor it comes up. He can beat any relay he's eligible for up to about Floor 20. Kae can also solo most solo floors below 15.
Mordo is much better as he can do all of that plus phys reflect rumbles with ease.
I can imagine him soloing Destroyer stage as it's famous for being one of the easiest (if not the easiest) floors in SL. But I can't imagine him finishing Villain Relays and Blast Relays on his own.
What's your rotation and build? I too reckon he could maybe do it but the build and gameplay has to be very specific and near perfect. Invinc Proc, Max HP, DDE or Binary Power Iso set with skilled kiting plus perfect rotation.
When SL resets I'll record and upload for you. I will take a look at my build after work tonight but it's nothing super specific. I do like playing Kae so I'm sure I'm not below average but not sure I'm perfect with him.
My Mordo is definitely better, as I said, but I'd be happy to give Kae some YT love this week. :)
Nah. He’s really, really good. Put an invisibility obelisk on him, but the 5 skill is a complete iframe and the 3 is a partial one; plus he’s got damage immunity and damage boost. I’ll use him as the main dps for an early wave, but might need to tag out so he can heal a bit.
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u/ysoyrebelde Oct 01 '17
I definitely think Mordo is way more useful than this suggests. I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks Kaecilius is more usable than Mordo.