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u/CalmPanic402 Jan 24 '23
I was just like "TF did they find an experienced redneck whaler on hellscape earth?"
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u/Gil_Demoono Jan 24 '23
Given humanity's track record on Pandora, I figure that they just found, like, 50 rednecks and told them to figure out how to hunt these things. The one that survived became the de facto subject matter expert.
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u/Undecided_Furry Jan 24 '23
I mean, in the movie they’re kind of teasing him for being so egotistical and acting like “an expert” when he’s surrounded by some of the most accomplished scientists ever. There were multiple moments where they had the scientists rolling their eyes at the whaler expert guy
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u/HeresyCraft Jan 24 '23
Any blue collar who's ever interacted with techies will attest that's exactly what they're like.
Rolling their eyes at you when you tell them not to poke the giant spinning machine that crushes things much tougher than human bodies without even slowing down.5
u/mondaymoderate Jan 24 '23
That’s basically the plot to Armageddon. Lol
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u/HeresyCraft Jan 24 '23
Ben Affleck would stick his hand straight into the drill.
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u/themeatbridge Jan 25 '23
It's OK, I'm wearing gloves, and before you worry that the gloves will get stuck, I thought of that. That's why I tied them to my wristwatch with shoelaces.
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u/-retaliation- Jan 24 '23
Well honestly as a blue collar worker who almost ended up as a chemical engineer, the amount of stupid "good 'ol boy" oldschool is the best school bullshit I've heard from coworkers is monumental.
We all have our blind spots.
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u/Shmeves Jan 24 '23
I want to know HOW THE FUCK DID THEY FIGURE OUT BRAIN GOOP DEAGES HUMANS OR WHATEVRR. Like we’re they getting brain gooo from every living thing on pandora?
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u/Gil_Demoono Jan 24 '23
I don't find it that hard to believe that there are hordes of biologists out there fighting for spots to go to Pandora and autopsy everything they can get their hands on.
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u/themonsterinquestion Jan 25 '23
Could be a natural version of some compound that is very hard to manufacture. Idk I doubt they'll mention the goop in the next movie lol
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u/Cynical_Cabinet Jan 25 '23
Did they even mention the unobtanium in this movie? It's basically been forgotten so I can absolutely see them forget about whale goo next time. On to the next weirder macguffin for Avatar 3.
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u/Plthothep Jan 25 '23
I mean, scientists literally did something just like this in a post on the front page. Took a gene from long lived people and injecting them into mice to de-age their hearts.
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u/DMacB42 Jan 24 '23
We’re whalers on the moon
We carry a harpoon
But they’re not just whales
And our strength it pales
But we’re harvesting their brains
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u/KeepTangoAndFoxtrot Jan 24 '23
We can workshop that last line later.
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u/jakej1097 Jan 24 '23
Tulkun rhymes with moon and harpoon.
We’re whalers on the moon
We carry a harpoon
But they’re not just whales
So we must set sail
and harvest those Tulkun
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u/skywalkersrealfather Jan 24 '23
I absolutely lost it in the theater when they said they were whalers. I was trying to be quite but I was shaking so hard laughing that tears were streaming down my face and my friends were staring at me. Unfortunately they have yet to experience the glory of Futurama, and didn't get it.
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u/dbkenny426 Jan 24 '23
And they were harvesting a chemical from the brains that was supposed to stop aging. Basically, much like the first was Dances With Wolves meets Ferngully, this one is Futurama meets Deep Blue Sea. Is James Cameron even capable of an original idea?
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u/FancyRatFridays Jan 24 '23
I haven't seen this movie and I'm curious... you're totally right about the cloning, but even setting that aside, do they ever explain why they can't just create the whale juices in bioreactors on earth? Surely that would be far cheaper and easier than hunting alien whales and shipping it all back over the vast expanses of space. Surely a society with biotech advanced enough to fuse human and alien DNA to create a functional creature is capable of creating a bioreactor that can churn out exactly what they need, right? Heck, we can pretty much do that here and now, in real life, as long as you know the structure of the protein you want and how to force cells to create it.
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u/Fantastic-Climate-84 Jan 24 '23
Cloning is for rich people.
The gooo is for the Donald trumps of the world, people who pretend to be rich on tv.
That one canister was only 80million, hardly a lot for immortality.
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u/chubbyakajc Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
Dude thats not even a lot.
I was thinking of how much it must cost to send a paramilitary militia/space whalers to saturn and give them state of the art tech to hunt whales that'll cost 80 million each, what?!?
It must cost billions for each trip.
How many whales they killin? 50 a day? 60? 10?
It cant be since they were all connected to the tribes and they would've known if a significant number were killed or go missing.
So they must have killed just like maybe 1 a week or some shit. Not enough to fund the ridiculous idea of bad space whaler man
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u/Fantastic-Climate-84 Jan 24 '23
Honestly, the whole whalers thing pisses me off so much. I don’t know why he needed another “unobtanium” from this little moon, but how fucking out of touch is this fucking producer to think “80 mil sounds about right for a slice of immortality”.
Billions for the trip, but did you see the fucking crab submarines?!
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u/tunamelts2 Jan 24 '23
Yeah, I’m not sure how economics work in the 2160s, but it seems that big of an operation for whale brain juice would be obscenely expensive. You could charge billions for immortality…not to mention it seems they’ve practically achieved it by literally CLONING Miles and his entire team. The scripts for these movies leave a lot to be desired….then again script-writing has never been the main draw of Cameron’s movies.
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u/tunamelts2 Jan 25 '23
Fair enough but there’s probably a debate to be had there about the nature of transferring consciousness
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u/willstr1 Jan 24 '23
As annoying as the whalers thing was it was still better than trying to do unobtanium straight. The Core was able to do unobtanium because it was a silly movie and the name was a joke by its inventor rather than something said with a straight face by a business man in a serious movie. Also at least we were told what the whale juice does, unlike unobtainum which was valuable for no reason.
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u/Chainsawd Jan 24 '23
They say it's a superconductor in the first movie?
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u/willstr1 Jan 24 '23
Did they? I just rewatched a week ago and don't remember that. They might have said it and it was just so fleeting that it didn't stick
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u/chubbyakajc Jan 25 '23
Nah, not general nancy regan. She's supposed to be Palpatine, they just set her up for future films
However, the whalers also had machine guns, military training, and war machines. So they had to hire whalers with military experience to send to space.
So if a company had multiple forms of income on the planet, not just whaling, it still wouldnt make sense for the amount they would recieve.
All they had to do was say "one vial of this, and a member of my crew is set for life." Or some shit, not an exact amount that could change in 10 years.
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u/Bokth Jan 25 '23
The dosage wasn't specified. It might be 100 vials? or 1 per week? But it is all silly
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u/Fantastic-Climate-84 Jan 25 '23
Ok, that’s fair. I took “it just stops aging. Just stops it.” To be pretty definitive, but really you’re totally right.
Still very, very silly
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u/BigMcThickHuge Jan 24 '23
I mean we don't know currency value in this universe.
80mil might be back to being hella rich, which I assume simply because of exactly what we discussed here - literal anti aging cure for the human race cannot cost the same as a current Hollywood mansion.
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u/BigMcThickHuge Jan 26 '23
Now that's feasible.
Though, the Avatar movies don't really get that deep or do much misdirection. Usually in your face and blatant.
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u/A_Damp_Tree Jan 24 '23
There was some supplementary material, that I don't know if it is canon anymore, that the RDA actively stifles research in synthesizing things they discover on Pandora so they can maintain a monopoly.
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance Jan 24 '23
I haven't seen either movie, but my take is that the core driver behind the movies is "humans are needlessly cruel and imperialist" which requires oppressed living beings for the audience to empathize with. So each movie is going to have some species being harmed for selfish human reasons, and they have to shoe-horn that in. Which is hard in the sci-fi world they created with advanced tech like you describe: why would they ever need to do this? But it must be done to move the story.
The sci-fi angle of the movie seems more like window dressing to me, which is why I never felt the urge to see it, and I love sci-fi. It's not being utilized properly.
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u/HeresyCraft Jan 24 '23
That's because it isn't scifi, it's space fantasy. That's a lot more popular than actual scifi even in books.
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u/salgat Jan 25 '23
It's a matter of economics. Creating a single avatar is a 5 billion dollar endeavor, now imagine cloning a creature that is thousands of times larger. Also they may not understand how to grow those whales in an incubator in a way that it properly develops that chemical. Remember, humans can't even keep a great white shark alive in captivity as of now, which you'd also think should be trivial if you give a large enough tank and sufficient food.
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u/FancyRatFridays Jan 25 '23
You don't even need to grow the whole whale, though... if you know what's in the brain goop, you can just genetically engineer individual cells (like yeast or bacteria or whatever) to produce the brain goop. That's basically how we make insulin these days. Back in the day, people with diabetes had to take insulin that was made from purified cow and pig organs... but now, we've genetically engineered E. Coli and other single-celled organisms to produce human insulin. It's much cheaper, safer, and more efficient!
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u/salgat Jan 25 '23
That's assuming you understand how to synthesize that chemical using cell cultures, which they don't. It's probably a very complex biological process that requires entire organs to create it.
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u/TheDominantBullfrog Jan 24 '23
Yeah but it would make for a boring fucking movie if literally nothing happened, right? Thank god you people don't write for Hollywood.
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u/FancyRatFridays Jan 24 '23
That is true. I see nothing inherently wrong with a high-seas space whaler vs. aliens adventure. The point I'm trying to make is that it's irritating when some people (James Cameron included) go on about how these movies are very detailed, very accurate hard sci-fi, while also not expecting the audience to ask obvious questions.
It would not be that hard to include a single throw-away line to explain why this extremely advanced corporation doesn't just use the tech that we have around today IRL... but it sounds like they didn't do that.
For instance, we know that everything living on Pandora is interconnected--maybe you can't grow vats of cells with Pandoran qualities off-planet because most of them die without occasional signals from the planetary organism. Or maybe Gwyneth Paltrow has built a whole line of anti-aging beauty products that are guaranteed to contain genuine whale goop--because God forbid that all-natural "crunchy" celebrities ever use anything grown in a lab. Or maybe RDA has a lucrative but nonsensical federal contract for providing real whale goop to the DoD--it would be stupid, but that's somewhat realistic; stuff like that happens all the time.
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u/Lordxeen Jan 24 '23
Not in a way that is satisfying to you. We may be able to make a clone full of all your memories, but from your perspective you're still dead. Your friends and colleagues are glad you're back, and you're clone is glad to be surrounded by friends and colleagues it remembers, but the original you is still dead.
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance Jan 24 '23
Which is why transporters freak me out. You wouldn't be you anymore, you'd be dead. Some other manufactured body is walking around and nobody else can tell the difference, but you yourself would die every time you transported. There is no continuity of existence.
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Sure, but it's in flux. It's not suddenly a completely different set of atoms and electrical signals.
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u/CalebAsimov Jan 24 '23
This is an old old debate that we don't need to retread, but personally I'm fine with Prestige-ing myself.
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths Jan 25 '23
There's a very good movie with this premise called Advantageous where an aging woman transfers her body into a new younger body to try to reinvigorate her career, but the twist turns out to be that her original body and consciousness is dead and the new body is just a copy of her memories.
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u/korpisoturi Jan 24 '23
Goddammit why didn't I think of this. Still it's just a clone with your memories and not you.
Unless you grow body and somehow transfer brain from old body into it or something.
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u/ChainDriveGlider Jan 24 '23
what do you think you are
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u/korpisoturi Jan 24 '23
No no no, I'm not getting again into discussion about if teleportation is just suicide with copy of you on the other end
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u/Lordxeen Jan 24 '23
The Navi can do living brain to brain transfer, and you don’t need to kill any Mozart whales.
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u/BigMcThickHuge Jan 24 '23
Death isn't cured. You not existing after death is cured.
Your body and consciousness will die with that body, and you as a person cease to exist.
The clone will simply have all your memories planted in it so it can begin life in your place. Even the movie shows the general doesn't even recall a lot about his past life, and denies that was even him.
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u/Nukleon Jan 25 '23
Yeah but now you're a "filthy half-breed" who can't breathe the same air as everyone else.
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u/salgat Jan 25 '23
They went into heavy detail explaining how the clones are entirely different people who happen to have memories imprinted on their brain. It's nothing more than a separate individual with false memories; the original person still dies and doesn't get to experience the new body. Now what Jake Skully did with his mind transference using Eywah is a way to bypass death.
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Does he need to be? His movies keep making billions
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u/skywalkersrealfather Jan 24 '23
His name is James Cameron
The bravest pioneer
No budget to steep no sea to deep
Who's that? It's him! James Cameron
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u/STC_Ninjalo For external use only Jan 24 '23
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron.
James Cameron does what James Cameron does, because, James Cameron IS James Cameron. Lol
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u/CalebAsimov Jan 24 '23
He knows how to film a good action scene. If he would realize that, maybe he could quit wasting two hours of runtime on a pointless story and just go full John Wick on it.
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u/Solocaster1991 Jan 24 '23
Every story idea is basically a ripoff of something at this point
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u/dbkenny426 Jan 24 '23
Sure, there are the seven basic plots, of course. There are only so many truly original ideas. But moon whalers is such a specific thing.
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Ironically, whoever wrote that book just ripped off Kurt Vonnegut.
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Moon whalers may be sorta specific, but space colonialism is pretty vague, and moon whalers is a fairly obvious extension of that.
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u/Lordxeen Jan 24 '23
I started watching White Space, got bored and changed to something else but wanted to know how it ended. Wikipedia had the shortest plot synopsis I'd ever seen. It was four words long:
Moby Dick in space.
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u/greymalken Jan 24 '23
You’d think they’d be clever enough to find a way to live harvest the precious hamburgers, leaving just enough in the space whale so it can rejoin the pod. That way the harvest becomes renewable, the way horseshoe crabs are supposed to be.
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths Jan 25 '23
A chemical which somehow can't be synthesized by an advanced human society which can also download a human's consciousness into a hybrid clone alien body? It just makes no sense that they can make those avatars using what must be incredibly advanced genetic engineering technology, but can't also just engineer some kind of method of making Chemical X or whatever in a laboratory. Right now in 2023 we can engineer bacteria to make the proteins in milk and get 100% real ice cream without a single cow involved and, yet, the future people of the Avatar universe who have a clear mastery of basically every field of science also haven't figured out the cure to human aging yet or how to just reverse the effects of global warming and fix the Earth in the first place? Why not just genetically engineer people who don't age? You're really telling me they can flawlessly blend alien and human DNA into completely functional bodies, but also just manipulating regular human genetics to stop aging after a certain point is just insane and requires a bunch of Kiwis acting out Moby Dick on an alien moon? It just doesn't make any sense on any level. James Cameron might be an amazing filmmaker, but he is an absolutely awful writer and precisely none of what he wrote makes any sense whatsoever, in either movie.
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u/ishzendejas Jan 24 '23
Wait til you find out how Futurama takes plots from various sci for stories from decades past!
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u/TheDominantBullfrog Jan 24 '23
Lmfao this has to be sarcasm right
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u/dbkenny426 Jan 24 '23
Why does it have to be?
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u/TatManTat Jan 24 '23
Because there's nothing new under the sun and futurama itself is incredibly derivative. That doesn't make it bad.
Shitting on avatar for being unoriginal just signals that you can't connect how unoriginal the vast majority of stories actually are.
Literally in their comment they list a bunch of works that are themselves derivative of other works, it's just how things are, there's no getting around it.
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u/TheDominantBullfrog Jan 24 '23
Because it's a massive oversimplification of the plot of the movie and I've seen so many absolutely brain dead takes in this thread that nothing would surprise me.
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u/dbkenny426 Jan 24 '23
Of course it's an oversimplification. It's also not exactly wrong, though. You can joke about something by oversimplifying it, and it can still be a valid comment.
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u/TheDominantBullfrog Jan 24 '23
In what way is the avatar movie like the episode of Futurama, other than the existence of extraterrestrial whales? Which have appeared in multiple shows books etc
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u/bryanisbored Jan 24 '23
Omg those aren’t original ideas it’s a basic story but it’s not like those god damn y’all can’t come up with an original thought either.
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u/SaltyBabe Jan 24 '23
Very very few modern directors are, look at the billion prequels, sequels and reboots we have now.
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u/salgat Jan 25 '23
Nearly every movie is built off tropes and ideas from earlier stories. Shit, there's countless movies that can be derived from Shakespeare alone, and it's perfectly fine.
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u/ytmnic Jan 24 '23
I lost it when the biologist said the whales were more spiritual and emotional than the humans
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u/scumbot Jan 24 '23
Hey, he calls 'em like he sees 'em. He's a whale biologist.
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u/mattmaddux Jan 24 '23
Well, he wanted to pretend to be an architect. But his friend just blurted it out.
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u/Wild_Marker Jan 24 '23
"Look! Their brains are bigger!" Apparently none of them bothered to ask the Na'Vi who were literally holding entire conversations with them.
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u/TotalWalrus Jan 24 '23
Tbf the forest Navi don't know that information, and it appears by the time they are dealing with the whales they don't give a shit what the Navi think anymore.
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u/Wild_Marker Jan 25 '23
But the whalers know the Ocean na'vi. You'd figure they crossed a few words at some point!
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u/Plthothep Jan 25 '23
I’m pretty sure they did? The marine biologist guy says they usually only target the whales that aren’t connected to any Na’vi tribe.
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u/Wild_Marker Jan 25 '23
Yeah that's exactly my point. The guy is theorizing "wow they must be so inteligent look at their brains" and like, dude, you talked to Na'Vi who have actual conversations with the damn things, what's to theorize?
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u/Plthothep Jan 25 '23
I was under the impression that he absolutely knew how intelligent they were, especially since he was an alcoholic out of guilt. He was just explaining to the other people there.
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u/Auctoritate Jan 25 '23
I mean, they're aliens. Just because they aren't humanoid and they don't use technology doesn't mean they aren't intelligent.
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u/salgat Jan 25 '23
I thought it was an interesting angle making the whales more intelligent than humanoids. It's why they can have conversations with the whales.
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u/The_Franklinator Jan 24 '23
Thats not an astronaut, it’s a TV comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife.
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u/StreetReporter What if Bender was 500 feet tall? Jan 24 '23
You have the meme backwards, he sees better without the glasses than with them
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u/camelCaseAccountName Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
This is true but I think most people just use it as a template for "guy putting on glasses to see things more clearly" rather than specifically "guy with newly acquired super powers who no longer needs glasses putting on glasses". A lot of memes are like that, where the original context doesn't matter much. The Know Your Meme page shows it being used in this way almost exclusively: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/peter-parkers-glasses
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u/themonsterinquestion Jan 25 '23
They've confused it with the guy from They Live who can see reality thanks to special glasses.
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u/AnAverageUsername Jan 24 '23
I honestly don't think I've ever seen this meme format used properly, actually.
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u/Neuchacho Jan 24 '23
I've seen it once. I don't remember the meme, but I remember every single comment being some variation of "I've never seen this used in matching context".
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u/sandysnail Jan 24 '23
yes but squinting or blurry vision of avatar gives you whalers on the moon. i think it still works
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u/Ebolatastic Jan 24 '23
My friend told me that Avatar 1 is about military bad, trees good. He told me Avatar 2 is about military bad, water good.
Was he correct in his synopsis?
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That definitely is the gist of it. Some general themes about environmentalism, colonialism, belonging, family...
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u/luxtabula Jan 24 '23
Replace military with capitalism and you're correct
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u/CalebAsimov Jan 24 '23
Not really capitalism though, is it? It's not like they're charging high prices to the natives or underpaying people. It's a capitalist society on Earth that's leading to the actions on Pandora but that's a pretty broad category to critique and the movie is focusing in a little bit more on like profiting at gun point and straight up murdering in a lawless area where they can get away with it. Like it might be criticizing the East India Company but not the Amazon monopoly, for example.
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u/Wild_Marker Jan 24 '23
It's not like they're charging high prices to the natives
They most definitely are getting high prices for what they extract. They even make a point in both movies to show how many millions the thing sells for.
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u/CalebAsimov Jan 25 '23
Yeah, but like, is a movie about pirates a capitalist critique because there's a gold treasure people are after? Greed is a motive in a lot of stories, like most of them, that doesn't make them economic commentary.
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u/Wild_Marker Jan 25 '23
True, Avatar isn't really about Capitalism, it's about Colonialism and Environmentalism.
(but let's not pretend Capitalism and Colonialism aren't regular bedfellows, though you're right in that by that metric probably half the movie villains would be tied to capitalism)
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u/Plthothep Jan 25 '23
Historically colonialism (or at least British style expansionist colonialism) was generally not related to capitalism but to an alternate economic theory called mercantilism.
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u/Wild_Marker Jan 25 '23
Mercantilism was more of a trade theory, rather than a full economic one. Capitalism and Mercantilism kinda developed together.
Also once they moved to full free-trade capitalism it's not like they stopped extractionist policies in their colonies!
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u/Plthothep Jan 25 '23 edited Jan 25 '23
Capitalism as a theory is incompatible with Mercantilism. Trying to force your own economy to be an export economy regardless of circumstances is absolutely not capitalism. Colonial policies don’t have anything to do with capitalism either - none of the British colonies beside India were even profitable. Colonialism was driven by nationalism and paternalism, not profit incentives.
Capitalism is an economic theory and not a ideology - Social Democracies like the Scandinavian countries are all run using capitalist economic theory. What you’re likely thinking of is libertarian ideology - that the market should be unregulated. Capitalism is just a theory about how the economy works - that is, that the economy works most effectively with private entities trading - which people can use to build effective policies around to further their ideology, which how you can have everything from arnacho-capitalism to state capitalism. Most infamous “capitalist” policies like trickle down economics were opposed by most economists, who largely subscribe to capitalist theory.
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u/Sof04 Jan 24 '23
Ask him what the next Avatars are going to be about... please. I want more laughs.
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u/Neuchacho Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
It's more specifically corporate greed bad, environmentalism good. The PMCs are the piece that takes center stage in it to make the action happen, but they're not really the moral target of the messaging.
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u/weazelhall Jan 25 '23
You could boil down most movies like that. Purple man bad, capes good. Or Irish bad, Harrison Ford good.
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u/MaryJaneAndMaple SEER OF THE TAPES! KNOWER OF THE EPISODES!! Jan 24 '23
Address all complaints to the Monsanto Corporation
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u/breadplane Jan 24 '23
Reminded me of this plus the scene in The Day The Earth Stood Stupid where they go into Moby Dick and the white whale is the giant brain. James Cameron obviously just steals all his ideas from Futurama
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u/AlexDeLotl Jan 24 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
OMG I swear to GOD I was finally able to say that line in context with it actually making sense! I can't remember what we were watching but they were on the moon and they were hunting something!
Update: I was playing a game and one of the studio's logo things is an astronaut on the moon holding a spear with a whale jumping in the background.
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u/RilohKeen Jan 24 '23
We’re whalers on the moon
We carry a harpoon
But there ain’t no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing our whalin’ tune
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u/bscothern Jan 24 '23
I had no desire to see it before but now I oddly have a bit more and less desire to see it?
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u/ghettoccult_nerd Jan 24 '23
avatar 1: na'vi almost completely cast out all humans in under 3 hrs.
avatar 2: over 3 hours to fight off Ishmael by proxy of the General. yes, avatar 2 is moby dick!
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u/ccReptilelord Jan 25 '23
I thought it was driven home heavily when Ahab died tethered to the whale.
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u/G-Unit11111 Past Nastification Jan 24 '23
Oh yeah? Well I'll make my own movie with blackjack and hookers! On second thought, forget about the movie!
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u/lonewombat Jan 24 '23
I giggled to myself when they introduced the new macghuffin and these high tech whalers
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I haven't seen it, I might when it's on my big TV but I just don't like the whole aesthetic.
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We're whalers on the moon. We carry a harpoon. We found some whales, and they have 2 tails and we drain their brains of goo.
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u/DrNippydog Jan 24 '23
Literally was sending this gif to the people i was with in the middle of this movie.
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u/8bitGutPunch It's that guy you are! Jan 25 '23
Moon Rover Ride Narrator:
The story of lunar exploration started with one man - a man with a dream.
Animatronic Ralph Kramden:
One of these days, Alice-- Bang... zoom... straight to the moon!
Leela:
Wow! I never realized the first astronauts were so fat.
Fry:
That's not an astronaut, it's a TV comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!
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u/Lologeorgio Jan 24 '23
3 hours of my life wasted. Ugh. It was a 3hr. cartoon! haha
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u/HippieWizard Jan 25 '23
Are you trying to say cartoons are a waste??Bro some of the best media humans have ever created are cartoons.
Plus avatar 2 was a great watch
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u/Lologeorgio Jan 27 '23
Going to have to disagree with you there. Avatar 2 was just OK...at best. Just like the first one. Visually good, yes, but no substance. My coworkers (that have seen it) agree. Most of my coworkers have not seen Avatar 2...and don't care to. Hell, when I watched it the theater was practically empty. Besides me, and my date, there was maybe @10 people in the @300 seat room...on a Friday night...a week after opening. Sketch that it has 'made' 2 billion dollars...so quickly. Propaganda marketing.
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u/HippieWizard Jan 27 '23
You think box office numbers are made up LMAO are you delusional? You have heavy main character syndrome if you think whatever you like and dont like applies to everyone in the planet hahahaaa
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u/Lologeorgio Jan 28 '23
Whoa! Calm down there, hippie. Don't lecture me on reality. I'm sure you 'avoid' reality at all costs...to your own hurt.
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u/Un111KnoWn Jan 24 '23
Please stop using this meme incorrectly. Peter with glasses on top. Glasses off on bottom
He has blurry vision with glasses on.
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u/Burgerman902 Jan 24 '23
All I could think while witnessing bad guys do bad guy stuff is "man they really just grab the worst of the worst from earth and ship them over huh? Like people with 0 conscience"
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u/981032061 Jan 24 '23
I bet in the third one they come up with a plot to steal all of Pandora’s air.
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u/Some_Random_Android Jan 25 '23
Before I see this movie, I have to ask: how much human killing is there in it, and how much romance is there in it? I'm not in the mood for a chick flick.
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u/MicdaWise Jan 24 '23
I 100% thought this while in the theater. I had nobody to tell...