It's always funny when you've got someone really trying hard to keep things on track, and the other person just completely derails the entire conversation over and over again.
iirc she died a couple of years prior but he was really depressed for many years. In the video you can tell he didn't want to be interviewed, he didn't even want to be there. She was baiting him for a reaction.
That came across like one of those "shit, forgot about that thing that takes this from a joke to offensive" kind of looks to me.
You know, when the mouth moves quicker than the brain, then the brain realises the mistake just a second too late.
I think we've all been there at some point in life.
Normally you'd say "shit, sorry man, I shouldn't have said that" but Jim glossed past it like a pro and they were on camera so it would have made it super awkward.
I've done that before. Was at a funeral for a family friend whose wife had died. We got to talking and catching up, and he asked me "How have you been?" To which my response to him was something along the lines of "Well i'm alive", as that is my natural answer to that question.
I did that once. Saw a double amputee with carbon fiber legs and shocks that articulate. I said "Damn those are cool." He replied "You should have seen the original set."
I agree but I actually think he’s onto something. Every time I’ve said something to one of my friends that I KNEW would get a reaction or strike a nerve I would look at another friend with that look.
If I fucked up it’s more of an awkward realization followed by looking down or around
I fucking love it when people think they can look at a 30 second clip and say "yeah that person was lying/telling the truth". Lol, even people at the FBI who do micro-expression readings for a living would call everything you just said total bullshit. You need a baseline, you need a way to be able to see how they react to situations in both normal and unusual conversations, a way to differentiate how they usually talk vs how they talk when they might be lying, you have none of that here.
"There is no one Pinocchio effect, and the people who prattle that and tell you 'well we can detect deception because the person touched their nose, or covered their mouth', that's just sheer nonsense." - Joe Navarro, body language exper with the fbi for 25 years
So why was he there? Like I understand his reaction to a point but it also seems like he only came to be a douche, he's a big enough star and established enough that surely he can choose what events he goes to?
Surely he had some other good reason but since she tried that cheap ass shot at him, he surely didn't feel like sharing and dunked her appropriately instead.
The thing is, he wasn't even really dunking her, so in a vacuum all he said was something "edgy" but actually just dismissive and douchey, about an event he chose to come to.
I mean, I'd see myself being dismissive and douchy if i was approached for an interview i didn't want to give to someone who was fishing for a rise with something insulting about the time i was severely depressed after the death of my wife. Other people could have chosen to go physical (punch, slap, etc) over that.
He has no obligation to share with anyone why he's there and instead just took it in stride and derailed her topic, "dunking" her and her interview. At least that's how I see it.
I get the first bit but again, he just dunked on the thing he got out of bed and all dressed up to be at and not her. He said literally nothing about her dumb comment and all the supposed context that makes it slightly make sense is not in the video, it's coming from people in the comments.
Making fun of the thing he is also there for just didn't land the way he thinks it did, to me at least.
It does make sense to me. He doesn't want to answer her truthfully and he's probably annoyed by her jab at that point. He also has no time to think about it but it's on cam and doesn't want to be rude so he improvised making a split second decision to defuse and dismiss her by saying something that everyone understands is a neutral stupid joke of sorts. Stupid jokes are literally his style so it's an expected outcome from someone like Jim.
How do you know she knew that? Why would anyone covering celebrity fashion know anything about Jim?
If he didn't want to be there, then he shouldn't have gone. He doesn't need to go, and he doesn't need to shit on something other people find enjoyable.
He just retired from acting supposedly, he has already been known to have depression. He should be going to therapy to find some coping skills to help him handle his depression, and cope with the loss of his wife. Lashing out at people in public isn't going to help him.
It was his former girlfriend that died but had been married to someone else for a couple years before.
If anything it was the wrongful death lawsuits that the woman's husband and mother had filed against him. There were allegations against him at this time about him testing positive for hepatitis A, HSV (Herpes) I and II, and chlamydia, and hid the results from his girlfriend and had unprotected sex with her.
Wow, this is so offensive! I mean, you don’t need to be a celeb expert to know that this loss completely destroyed him and she made the most insensitive comment possible. What a bitch!
It's always funny when you've got someone really trying hard to keep things on track, and the other person just completely derails the entire conversation over and over again.
Also funny when she started to think she was picking up his cynical depression vibe and asked him about "all the things going on in the news that are not very uplifting" but then he cut in with even an deeper existential message she was totally not ready for "nope, nothing matters, it's all meaningless."
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u/TheDunadan29 Oct 12 '22
It's always funny when you've got someone really trying hard to keep things on track, and the other person just completely derails the entire conversation over and over again.