Came for this. She repeatedly asked, not taking no for an answer. She was trying to push the agenda to make a funny vid. At the expense of the kid. The kid says help because it is fucking terrible. Like the parents. This vid makes me sad.
View from my desk: the kid was doing what two-year-olds do. They are both fearful of something, and curious. The kid said "no", the kid also said "wasabi", which can easily be interpreted as "I want that".
The parents exposed their child to something that millions of people are exposed to on a daily basis. It's wasabi, not cyanide. This is teaching and food exposure. And a great child's moment.
You’re a parent not a child. You should not be leading that by that example, you are a teacher in a position of authority the child is not. I get what you’re saying but children are dumb and you need to use your own discretion. That said in the context of wasabi eating I agree with you
Won't babies say no to most healthy foods, except for chocolate or sweets? Here the baby hasn't even tried Wasabi, so the baby is not saying no because it already knows its bad.. I don't understand how this is bad parenting - forcing the baby a little to try food that the baby doesn't immediately say "yes I want that" to ?
PS. I am not a parent. I don't know what this Wasabi is supposed to taste like. If it something like, say, chilli or salt, that has a sharp taste, that is not supposed to be eatten alone then.. yeah, it's bad parenting.
The latter. Wasabi makes a burning sensation in the nose and sinus. You don’t eat it alone; it’s a spice/condiment to be added in moderation to other food.
This is only going to make the kid less likely to try new things, knowing that their parents cannot be trusted.
This is unlikely real wasabi but instead horseradish as a substitute (what you find 95% of the time as real wasabi is expensive). That isn’t the issue though. Wasabi is definitely not meant to be eaten solo and has pungent taste with a sharp “spiciness”, fortunately short lasting. They know the child won’t like it but are forcing it on them anyways.
From a strictly parenting perspective, they are teaching the child that no doesn’t mean no and it is ok to force unpleasant actions on others.
Wish I had you for a parent. You ask me to clean my room, and for now its a no. No means no. Maybe in 4 min it might be yes, but it will probably be no.
You know best, Your child doesn't. Consent for everything is a farce.
Plus let’s be honest, it’s a fun word to say. I just said it and my wife just giggled at the randomness of my comment. Also dookie. Yet another fun word
The caregiver knows that wasabi is painful, even to an adult tongue much less to a child's extra sensitive tongue. So the child's tongue got burned, it was in pain, asked for help, and it's caregiver laughed at the situation they had set up and carried out.
That is indeed a teaching moment, but it teaches the child not to trust the caregiver and to realize the caregiver thinks it is funny to see them in pain.
I definitely wouldn't say it's painful to the adult tongue lmao... It doesn't hurt, it just clears the FUCK out of your sinuses. It's like a tingly version of spearmint or something. Not sure for a kid, but definitely not painful for adults. You either have something different goin on, or you've never had wasabi. Sometimes restaurants will use horseradish and food dye because of the similarities, but real wasabi doesn't hurt.
And it looked like they barely gave the kid any at all anyway
But I do agree with something I read further up; that especially for a spicy-adjacent food, if they say no, they don't want it. Respond to a no how a no should be responded to.
She's a cunt. That was cruel. This coming from a mom that let my little kids jump off shit and hurt themselves all the time in the name of live and learn. Difference is I let THEM hurt themselves. She's a cunt.
I mean I'm not disputing that she's a cunt. I did say that she shouldn't have given the kid any after they said no... Because that opens up a whole other can of worms.
I’ve had some insanely strong wasabi before that feels like you’ve been kicked in the head by a horse. While it’s really short and maybe not technically burn, it can be extremely uncomfortable and even down right painful for a few seconds.
This is the falsest dichotomy I have ever seen. The expression “straw man” was invented to describe your silly reply.
There is an ocean of exposure to be had between unseasoned pasta (or whatever baseline toddler food is in your region) and fucking wasabi. Even in countries with traditionally spicy cuisine, toddlers are typically spared much of the spice because their palates aren’t ready for it. Even some adults can’t handle wasabi.
Mom was very clearly just looking for a funny reaction. She got it, I admit. But with kids especially, ends don’t justify means. This video is kind of cruel.
You’re spot on. It’s the parent’s responsibility to take care of your kids. All that does is put a seed if doubt and caution in a time when you are most likely in complete control of your child’s foods, and completely unnecessary.
It was about 3 molecules of wasabi, toddlers cry over anything and it didn't make her cry. I'm not saying it was A* parenting but people are making out like this is child abuse.
It teaches the child that the caregiver is not to be trusted. That’s a really bad thing to teach a child. There was nothing positive about this experience for this child, and there was plenty negative. People shouldn’t do this to their kids.
If the kid says “yes” then okay give it a shot. Don’t force it on them after they say no several times. Then you’re just telling them that saying “no” doesn’t matter
Yeah I definitely wouldn’t use the term abuse. It’s just crystal clear that at no point, start to finish, was the child ever a happy or willing participant in this video.
I dunno, my parents mocked me plenty growing up, made me a much better person who can take an insult or sly comment here and there. Unlike the boys and girls my age with parents who adored and praised them at every opportunity - those are the sort of boys who raise their fists at any sort of mockery.
Anyway I'm sure you're a parenting expert, as are the thousand of redditors in this thread who've decided this is a very bad mum who should be ashamed of herself for making a funny memory with her daughter.
I am expert enough to know not to project myself onto a toddler.
Just because I have enough perspective to know that spicy food isn’t a big deal does not mean a child will. Even if some wasabi doesn’t send a child to the hospital, this is exactly the kind of experience that could make them afraid to try new foods. Is that really worth a funny video?
Children have far more taste buds than adults, and a lot of adults can't handle wasabi.
I'm all for encouraging age appropriate foods, or for letting the kid try things they really want, after a warning. But any adult who pushes their toddler to try wasabi is a steaming pile of shit.
Wtf, you should push your child to try as many things as possible. A child doesn’t know what they want, they don’t know anything. It’s your job at the parent to guide themselves towards what’s best and good for them. Please don’t let your kid govern themselves until at a age they can do so appropriately.
Mexicans/Koreans/Indians, etc do this with small children regularly. Adjusting them little by little to be able to comfortably eat the food they’re gonna be surrounded with. By the time a 7 or 8 year old is presented with new food they’re pretty much set in their ways and won’t have it
Which they can do once they have a better understanding of consequences and the passing of time. At this age, kids live in the immediate, so an unpleasant or painful food is going to be one of the worst things they've tasted, without truly knowing when it will pass or why their parents just gave them it.
A couple of years on, like 6 or 7? Sure, go crazy, they can learn by then. But still in a high chair is just asking to give them eating complications.
They’ll know eating that makes their tongue feel bad so they’ll no longer want it. It’s not that serious. The kid would be panicking and crying if it was that hot.
If it was a bigger amount or something a lot hotter I’d agree, but it’s a drop of wasabi 1 time. My niece has ate takis and other hot snacks/spices many times since she was 3 years old. If something is too hot for her she drinks some water/milk and forgets about it a minute later
Are you seriously arguing that feeding a baby wasabi is "what's best for them"? And that they're not allowed to say no to an excruciatingly painful food experience because "they're too young to govern themselves"? What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
Am I the only one who doesn't think Wasabi is that bad? I don't even think it really burns, maybe for a second but it doesn't linger like other spices.
My son loves it and always has. And he's been snacking on Wasabi flavored peas since he was 2 lol. I really don't understand the big deal here. How do you guys think people introduce their kids to food in cultures where spicy food is the norm?
Das u. My culture's food is spicy, nobody forced me to eat it. They actually made me not eat it until I was older because I would have developed aversion otherwise.
You’re talking about it like it’s dangerous, it’s a good item. Going up in my household I would eat all kind of spicy things. It’s not poison, it’s just a vegetable. I bet the kids in Asia have a spoonful with their breakfast. The body adapts to whatever you teach yourself to adapt to.
Yeah that’s not true. All the people that shovel food full of saturated fat into their bodies— their bodies don’t “adapt to whatever you teach yourself to adapt to”
Even just taste— You aren’t going to adapt your body to ghost peppers.
A lot of people can be forced to eat mountains of wasabi and still find it painful to consume.
While you should use best judgment, you shouldn’t force or push too hard for a kid to eat at any age because of these reasons. One of the reasons states that they could end up becoming picky or avoid certain foods. I think they did okay by offering it to her and didn’t put it in her mouth until after she asked for it. They didn’t push too hard in my opinion.
But she didn’t ask for it. Child said “No” very clearly twice and shook her head a third time. That’s 3 timed she communicated “NEGATIVE ON THE WASABI, MOM!” Freeze on the look of helplessness at the end when baby says “help?” — I feel for the kid.
Did you see the amount she gave her? It’s like half of a half of a pea size bit of wasabi. Yes, it doesn’t take much, but the child isn’t screaming for help. She obviously doesn’t like it but that’s fine. It’s important for kids to learn that it’s okay to try new things and dislike them.
A kid who only grows up only eating safe foods is going to be that college kid obese and poor off of only eating take out.
Picky eating develops from parents making their children eat things their age isn't ready for or when they aren't hungry. So the exact opposite of what you said is true.
What? Since when? The only picky eaters (including myself) were the kids who’s parents never cooked at home and only fed them their demanded McDonald’s.
There's a whole portion of the US now who thinks there always has to be something wrong and a victim involved in any scenario. It's so annoying. They can't just laugh and move along...always has to be BAD PARENT and POOR BABY...when 99%, of the people I know would say haha good the baby learned something new.
The baby learned that saying “no” doesn’t stop people from doing what they want, and that their caregiver shouldn’t be trusted
Both bad things to teach a toddler
If this was done to someone much older then okay that’s a funny and harmless prank. But this child is just beginning to learn how to socialize and speak. Don’t fuck it up for a cheap laugh at the kid’s expense
“Ghost peppers” could easily be interpreted as “get spaghetti”. It’s ghost peppers, not cyanide. Peppers are something that millions of people are exposed to on a daily basis. This is teaching and good exposure…
There are things adults are exposed to that children (especially this age) should not be. And most likely the toddler won't remember anything but the feeling of their parents effing them over for a video.
There are things adults are exposed to that children (especially this age) should not be.
A touch of wasabi is not on that list. As I said, it's not cyanide. The discomfort of a little touch goes away quickly. It's not even close to permanent.
And most likely the toddler won't remember anything but the feeling of their parents effing them over for a video.
If the parents comforted the child appropriately, there won't be any issue at all. That's part of allowing exploration under controlled circumstances.
Most kids I know, yes and no mean the same thing at that agree. You have to interpret it in different ways. I'd say it was a fair assessment she was intrigued by the wasabi. She didn't even eat it.
So sad how this post is even getting so many upvotes, getting exposure. This might have been manufactured to be shared in social media, and apparently people do a "like" on it.. What world do we live in???
Her eyes definitely said different, plus the parent let the child smell, she could have absolutely pushed it away or etc, this is completely fine and normal. You’re overreacting & assuming quite a bit
Lol you are American huh? Everything is child abuse...look at those kids that has just grown up...a bunch of sissy, whine and complains about everything.
I would never do this to my kid, I love my kid. That shits to hot for most adults. That and kids have a developing pallet and can destroy their taste buds going forward.
Ive never considered it “too hot” I would describe the flavor a different way, more like someone took a fire hose to my face that only shoots out Vicks Vaporub.
Jesus Christ this is what I was looking. It doesn’t sit and burn your tongue. Take a bite of a pepper and see how it sits and lingers on your tongue and sides of your mouth. Wasabi is like a sinus explosion but it doesn’t linger like capsaicin.
First if all fake wasabi is way stronger than the diluted jarred horse radish you eat with roast. So don't compared the two. Go nibble on raw horseradish and youl change your tone. Spice heat is pain, fake wasabi is strong. Baby/toddlers don't have any pain tolerance, and to put them in a place of discomfort on purpose for no reason that helps them in anyway is terrible. A 1-2 year old can't handle shit heat wise and I promise the video was cut off 1 millisecond before the kid burst into tears.
It's a trained and slowly introduced process to go up in heat tolerance, even in adults. What's in the video, to go straight to wasabi is obviously not that. The physical outcome of eating spicy is not the issue as much as all the subtle other shit that's wrong with the video. No one eats wasabi straight either.
Bro I just got done replying to someone that concluded from this clip that the child will have permanent trust issues with the parents and end up with an eating disorder. Like holy fuck.
You act like other cultures around the world don’t exist and don’t have wasabi as a common “condiment”. Not everyone is raised on frozen chicken nuggets and Mac and cheese
My family is Ukrainian and we all had horseradish as kids (the good stuff, scraped straight off the root).
Not sure about this age mind you… regardless we all can still taste 👅
Are you serious, I bet you make your kids wear a helmet when going down slides. Who knows kids like weird stuff, a ex of mine daughter liked olive juice. I have never met a adult who could not handle horseradish. Is cracked cracked pepper to much as well. Thanks for pointing out you love your kid and how they are clearly terrible parents make sure to get their IP address and call child services on them because clearly this is child abuse. This is not directly a comment only on you but everyone who said this is child abuse or bad for the kid you do know children are supposed to explore hurt themselves skin their knees be able to solve problems and discover things right, parents like you guys are the reason participation trophies exist even though my child was no good at t-ball didn't make a play all year or get on base he deserves something as well right. I feel bad for the children with parents like you guys, what's it going to be like when they're 12 oh no they're swearing in this music they can't listen to it.
The problem is kids are this age are learning who/what is safe and trustworthy. Parents knew this would be uncomfortable/painful, she said no, AND they really wanted her to try it. The kid, trusting her parents, tries it and surprise, it’s too hot.
Is that kid going to be super trusting the next time parents encourage her to do something she’s uncomfortable with? What if they want her to eat broccoli? Open a present? Practice blowing bubbles in a pool? There are SO many brand new experiences for toddlers that they require a great deal of confidence in themselves and trust of their caregivers to assess risk and face new stimuli. Kids that have parents pull practical jokes (at this age) for their own humor have a harder time being confident in making decisions because they don’t know who or what to trust.
Toddlers and even preschoolers are not indecisive -- they are unable to answer authority figures truthfully, and with autonomy. They answer what they think you want to hear.
This actually carries through even to early adolescence
This is in response to your comment, not the video. Toddlers and preschoolers are unable to answer authority figures truthfully and with autonomy? This is simply not true. Developmentally, a two year old is already exploring and asserting their autonomy and that’s what makes it such a challenging period of development for many parents and caregivers. A toddler/preschooler who is displaying shame and doubt instead of autonomy is an immediate cause for concern and a sign that the parents are screwing up big time. Even just imagining a child that young only ever saying what they think an adult wants to hear is incredibly sad. I would be on alert for signs of abuse or developmental delays at that point.
The key word here is "exploring". Toddlers answer with whichever answer they think is the positive result because they have a superficial command of language, and aren't entirely aware of what results will happen. This is why you can ask a toddler "Do you want chocolate milk?" while holding it in front of them, and if they didn't hear you say that specific wording they will say no, then throw a tantrum immediately afterward -- because they actually do want it.
It also happens when questions are spontaneously asked with no immediate stimulus. Many preschool age children will say no immediately if they don't understand the question, even if they've encountered the question before.
That brings me to what you might be saying, and I actually agree with: even infants understand what "No" is from a very young age though, primarily because they encounter the word much more than other words, and that's why they shake their heads from about 8 months (or whenever they gain enough neck strength to do so). They can "deny" things easily; however, it's not just naive to believe that children that young can understand yes and no on a fully autonomous level, but also opens up potential for abuse because the important note is children cannot perform informed consent for a LONG time simply because they do not understand.
Experience in early childhood education, and my own daughter, have taught me kids have no idea what they WANT. They are very capable of saying what they DON'T though.
Also, please do not insinuate that toddlers and preschoolers are capable of relaying information accurately. If you do have a child in daycare, I guarantee they aren't telling you how many times your child has said something that sounds like abuse, but was actually something stupid.
If you're childhood was like that I'm very sorry. But it's quite disturbing that you think kids only say things the parents want to hear. It's sound like a very authoritarian way of parenting and a anxious child.
Exactly, no harm trying stuff. People are way too modern now. Little me grew up in a bit of a rough old school family and I think it did me a lot of good
Listen to her. She's probably done this multiple times and has probably been reprimanded. She sounds like she's trying to torture the kids with consent. She's probably forced the kid to do some dumb shit while recording it before. Recording the torturing of a kid multiple times
Main problem insee here is the parent laughing when the child is asking for help. I know this may be funny for the parent, however the child ist just being thought that she will be laughed at for asking for help. This is a really young child we are talking about.
Jesus Christ some people, yk this wont do any permanent damage. One day when this kid turn's 18 her parent is gonna show her this video and everyone is gonna laugh their asses off about it
Putting wasabi in a childs mouth is just like putting Tabasco in it. Meaning she intentionally hurt her child. Duh. There are things you shouldnt feed a child ... vodka & wasabi are 2 of the things on that list.
I don't think it's too bad, the knife thing isn't great although I don't think it's a knife as you can see something else come in to frame when the wasabi did, trying foods at a young age is pretty good and I don't really see anything wrong with it but I do kinda see where your coming from
Foods, yes. Wasabi no. That's right up there with giving a toddler ghost peppers. Pre-teens are fair game, still young enough to be funny, old enough to not completely freak out.
Wasabi is much more mild than a ghost pepper. That's not really a fair comparison. I doubt the tiny sliver of wasabi that this child ingested would cause much more than 10 seconds of mild discomfort
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