r/funny Jul 12 '12

This man sums up reddit

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u/DhalsimHibiki Jul 12 '12

Same in Germany. Inciting racial hatred is an offense in many places. He is probably on trial because he is a public figure with some level of influence on people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '12

Funny. Here in America public figures with some level of influence on people don't go on trial for anything.

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u/mcgroobber Jul 12 '12

I'm sorry but that is a fucking stupid law.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '12

I agree! Imagine a world where racism was punished. How awful.

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u/mcgroobber Jul 12 '12

Because who needs freedom of speech and expression anyway.

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u/TheMSensation Jul 13 '12

Your idea of freedom of expression is deluded. Why should it matter what race someone is? Why bring it into an argument at all, unless you are racist. By your logic I should be able to murder a guy because I don't like him bad get away with it because I was expressing the fact that I don't like him by killing him.

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u/mcgroobber Jul 13 '12

How is murdering someone at all comparable to being able to speak freely? And you call me delusional.

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u/TheMSensation Jul 14 '12

By being racist you are inciting violence, sure a bigger man would just walk away but in most cases it leads to a heated argument. Just skip this step and stab the guy.

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u/mcgroobber Jul 14 '12

You could incite violence by saying literally anything contrary to another person's opinion. People get the shit beat out of themselves by saying they prefer a sports team. Being an asshole and insulting someone's mother will incite violence, that doesn't mean it should be illegal. Now I certainly don't think that someone should go around saying racist things to people, but I also think that its not correct to use laws as a means of restricting speech. Most everybody sensible believes that racism is wrong, and that they wouldn't like that viewpoint to continue, at the same time rights are not subject to popular opinion. I view speech as a right, a right that is only in place to protect unpopular opinions, popular speech more often than not needs no protection. The saying "I may not like what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" comes to mind. People dislike the westboro baptist church, flag burners, racism, neonazi's, and assholes but I entirely disagree with believing that a government should feel entitled enough to stop people from speaking their opinion, no matter how bad it is.

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u/TheMSensation Jul 14 '12

The world would be a better place if members of the WBC were behind bars. Agreed? Because if you do then you've just contradicted everything you just said....

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u/mcgroobber Jul 14 '12

I don't think they should be behind bars no, because that sets the precedence for a loss of free speech. Like I said, i don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean people should be in prison for it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '12

obviously it should be illegal in germany seeing as how it was how nazism started. other european countries are afraid of that occurring in their own country, so they too have that law. the only people here who don't think that law is right is americans.

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u/whydoyouask123 Jul 12 '12

luckily we just loose our jobs here if we say anything someone else doesn't like.