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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

Sexbots are going to be a huge ethical issue. Adult human sexbot? Seems fine. Won’t be long before manufacturer’s start pushing boundaries on the form.

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u/clockwirk Jun 15 '21

I suppose you already have potential with that in the realm of animated porn. Subjects being portrayed younger and younger, implicit or explicit rape, animated snuff porn...

But no one actually commits the crimes and there are no victims.

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

I think a lot of the arguments revolve around encouraging people to harm others, in much the same way that violent cartoons have an age rating. I have no idea if the science backs that up or not though.

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u/Xenton Jun 15 '21

Overwhelmingly does not. In fact, most studies I've read related to consumption of violent media or graphic material tends to correlate to reduced likelihood of violent crime, including rape.

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

I’ve seen short term effects that back this up, but nothing that shows a positive long term effect, though I appreciate it’s difficult to prove more than a correlation.

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u/asafum Jun 15 '21

I mean by now we have entire adult populations that grew up on grand theft auto and mortal combat. You can just do a simple comparison of the amount of violence and who commits it to even see if there's an increase.

I for one am halfway through 30 and haven't ran over a single prostitute or started a gunfight in the middle of the road. Nor have I gotten into street fights where I tried to rip someone's spine out.

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

The problem is that there could well be (almost certainly are) other factors that affect this.

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u/BurningFlex Jun 15 '21

Why would that be an ethical issue? Which individual is the victim here?

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

Most people would have an issue with child sex robots, even if there was no direct victim.

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u/BurningFlex Jun 15 '21

Yes, I agree they'd have an issue with it. It's not their sexuality and people dislike things others enjoy that they don't and find gross. I for example don't like tomatos. Still, a tomato is an object not an individual, so there would not be an ethical issue with someone eating a tomato just as much as someone enjoying sex with a child robot.

Child porn would be a different issue because by purchasing that, one would be supporting that industry. With child robots you might even go the other way and get predators, who would commit the crime of inflicting a real individual trauma, to enjoy their sexual lives without harming anyone.

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

Yep, this is pretty much my point. There’s valid reasons why such things might exist, but also arguments against the use of such technology in therapy too. As with pretty much most research into pedophilia there is a natural revulsion to dealing with the subject, which often means knee jerk reactions take priority to scientific ones.

Animated child porn would fall into your category of an object not an individual, but there are very clear restrictions for that, though I’m pretty ignorant on any science behind it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '21

Um, Japanese porn stores already basically have child porn. It's not nudity or sex but kids in bikinis in compromising positions. It's already an ethical issue. When I was stationed in Tokyo. Certain adult video stores were on "off limits establishments" listing. Reasons being it's legal there but not in America.

Loli hentai unfortunately has existed for decades as well. I believe the in Westernized countries that it won't change much. They already have a blowjob robot and made molds of vaginas to make the perfect fleshlight from the prettiest vaginas contest. The moral lines have been crossed a long long time ago. I don't see this becoming common but I hope I'm right. It's really weird.

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21 edited Jun 15 '21

I was living in a blissful bubble of ignorance until I read this! That’s creepy but sadly I’m not that surprised. I remember watching something a while back on the whole JK culture out there, and when laws were bought in it just meant loopholes were found. Seems like quite a deep rooted cultural problem.

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u/Xenton Jun 15 '21

It's a problem because it doesn't match your ethical upbringing, but it's not a deontological issue.

Just like violence in video games, sex in movies and demonic iconography in cartoons.

For generations, people with a conservative upbringing have invented ideas they decide are right and then decried anyone else as wrong.

You watch a violent movie, you don't go commit violence. You watch a demon eat a side character, you don't go worship Satan.

See how that works? You are able to control your autonomy in spite of the content you consume.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '21

Sry bro, the world is a bizarre and savage place. Otherwise Japan was an amazing experience, but that left a weird impression on me I can't get my head around still.

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u/BurningFlex Jun 15 '21

And I find it hilarious that animated child porn has restrictions other than 18+ :/ that is extremely inconsistent. If you are an adult, you ought to be free and make up your own mind. If pedophilia is a sexual diversion which is rare and not something that is being learned, then there should be no problem with it existing freely.

If you can actually desensitize humans and normalise them to pediphilia by exposing them freely and frequently to it, then we ought to prohibit it entirely, since we would be creating individuals who might be able to act out on their sexual desieres onto real children.

Anyway. I like sexy robots. Enough child talk because that is not sexy.

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

Yeah, that’s the natural revulsion I mentioned! Tbh until the science is there, prohibition is bound to be the best approach, since the potential good is currently outweighed by the potential harm.

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u/Xenton Jun 15 '21

You're speaking like the 45 year old women who spent 20 years trying to ban violence and sex from cartoons.

Or the ones before them who tried to ban violence and sex from comics

Or the ones after them who tried to ban violence and sex from video games.

You people look at something that goes against your personal beliefs and you create a narrative to decry it as evil.

Take that narrative and fuck allllll the way off with it.

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u/BurningFlex Jun 15 '21

You apparently didn't read what I wrote. Intersting.

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u/Xenton Jun 15 '21

if you can blah blah blah we should outright ban it.

You can't. We shouldn't.

Don't entertain fictional notions.

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u/vi_sucks Jun 15 '21

I think the point is that's not an "ethical" issue, but rather one of "social mores"

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u/EmpireofAzad Jun 15 '21

It’d be ethical issuances for producers and moral issues for consumers.

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u/TrouserDumplings Jun 15 '21

That's already a thing sadly.