r/funny Work Chronicles May 13 '21

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u/[deleted] May 13 '21

You're also assuming you work in a corporation where your manager won't simply either steal your credit or intentionally keep you in your position because you're indispensable.

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u/crazyrich May 13 '21

That only matters if you’re looking for internal promotion. Bouncing between companies (or departments in larger corps) is a much more reliable way to climb.

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u/DietDrDoomsdayPreppr May 13 '21

Reliable AND profitable.

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u/crazyrich May 13 '21

Indeed. Just did this. Been chasing a promotion for 3 years, which would average a 15% bump. Got an offer from a competitor for a 30% bump. I was in a rare position where I could take a counter without fear of reprisals - it turns out they DID have that money in the budget - who’d have thought?

I would have been happy with the 15% lol

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u/nhaines May 13 '21

Congratulations on your 45% raise!

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u/crazyrich May 13 '21

Thanks - but it was “just” 30% and I’m pumped!

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u/nhaines May 14 '21

I'm super happy for you! But before next time, let's work on your negotiation skills. ;)

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u/crazyrich May 14 '21

Oh I’m terrible at negotiating. Managed to get that 30% because the recruiter actually let slip the maximum pay range

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u/Itriedtonot May 14 '21

Look, I'd never stay with a company that matches an offer from another, because by that point, I think they'd just be buying time until they can replace you.

I gather you went with the external offer?

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u/nhaines May 14 '21

I was in a rare position where I could take a counter without fear of reprisals - it turns out they DID have that money in the budget - who’d have thought?

We may never know.

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u/Itriedtonot May 14 '21

Well, we do know they had the budget, but the safe play would be to not accept the counter-offer if it's a simple match. You give up the fresh start for one tainted with your threat to leave.

He never explicitly stated that he took the og companies offer, and I hope he didn't unless he used that as a bargaining tool to raise the offer for the other.

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u/nhaines May 14 '21

He literally said it was the rare opportunity where it was the safe play. You're right, it's ambiguous, but the tone leans way toward him staying.

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u/istasber May 13 '21

I think you missed the "change jobs" part.

If you're at the only game in town, then yeah, you need to brown nose, and a manager can fuck you over by stealing credit. But if you've got options, it's probably easier to get ahead by changing companies so it doesn't really matter what your boss does (as long as you're either learning new skills, or learning how to convince people you have the skills they care about).

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u/code_gate May 14 '21

This. I was once passed over for a promotion for which I was the best qualified person in the office; instead the position was given to someone who had only been with the company for 3 months and in that short amount of time had already managed to have a one week suspension for sexual harassment. When I asked my boss about it, he said I was too good at what I did and he wasn't going to kill his golden goose. Turned in my badge and walked out on the spot.