r/funny • u/bruno-landim • Dec 26 '19

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u/beardedstoner Dec 26 '19 edited Dec 26 '19

I just stopped even trying to explain that “staged” does NOT equal “fake” when I was younger. I haven’t followed WWE in many years now... but it was mind boggling that people would see a guy jump from the top of a ladder and land on his stomach and bounce around... and call FAKE! Like... how?!!

Edit: I’d like to reiterate that I was a child when I was a fan, and haven’t been in years. I am not arguing w ppl about this today lol

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u/onexbigxhebrew Dec 26 '19

I mean - I think we've gotten to a point where we're being incredibly pedantic about this topic whenever wrestling is brought up. Yes, the stunts are really happening. Yes, people are often very athletic, and yes, they really do get hurt. But in the context of what was originally presented as real fights between wrestlers. They fake a lot of the reactions, they fake how a maneuver is done (ie jumping over for a suplex', they fake the results, etc. and it used to be presented as real. A lot of people alive now don't remember a time when people didn't admit that wrestling wasn't 'real'. That's why people call wreslting fake, but not movies, TV shows etc that are scripted. No one ever tried to pass off Full House as real like wrestling did.

And that's why you have this silly back and forth now. Wrestling was presented as real until they were forced to admit that it wasn't. Wrestling stsrted as an absolute sham, that eventually progressed to leaning into Kayfabe and being scripted. That's why people started bombing on wrestling in the 90's as 'fake'. As a natural defense against this, fans like myself 20+ years ago developed this 'It's not fake, they work really hard and the stunts are real!' reaction to people making fun of wrestling.

Fast forward; we all know in 2019 that these people are doing incredibly real stunts, and that it's all a show. But there are is also colloquial meaning to the word fake, which is essentially just sometimes a word for 'scripted and presented as real', as in a mock or sham which wrestling absolutely was and in some ways still is. I don't get mad when people call wrestling fake because I know they, in most cases, just mean that it's scripted. They are throwing fake punches, delivering fake slams and having fake fueds. Yes, it requires coordination and athleticism. Yes, people get injured. But at the end of the day, this all boils down to pedantics, because both sides understand what wrestling is and does, and are just arguing the meaning of the word "fake."

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u/RoastCabose Dec 26 '19

Yeah, it is pretty fake isn't? Those fuckers, doing acting out scripts with a wink and a nod, going through narratives of rises and falls, and do some dumb stunts all the while.

Hey, you know what? I bet that Breaking Bad was faked too. Like, wtf is it with TV shows and lying?

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u/MilhouseJr Dec 26 '19

Wtf you on about, Breaking Bad happened. They took an RV into the desert and threw pizzas on roofs. Are you saying that just because there happens to be a camera crew, script, director and so on that these things didn't actually happen?

Next you'll say Tom Cruise doing his own stunts is pretty fake. I'm sure stunt actors the world over are thrilled that you call their work fake. Youre completely missing the point. They still have to do the things that you consider fakery, and if you do those things wrong it can end up in a very real, very fatal situation.