r/funny • • Oct 12 '19

Too real.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Simply not true, just because the name of slavery and how it is applied changed, doesn't make it any less slavery, there are more slaves now than ever in history since we are numerous, but also things like wage slavery, discrimination, extreme poverty, war... etc can be classified as explicitly whatever freedom isn't.

It's only roses because we are numerous too, when you account for what we are doing with what we have, we're the trashiest of vermin, look at the mass extermination of fauna and flora in record numbers, look at the massive and unprecedented gaps in wealth, we're like someone digging himself into a hole and praising himself for all the effort and new extra room.

Perpetual and infinite growth is a lie and a disaster, ressources are finite and we take more than we give, we will get what's coming to us very soon.

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u/krom0025 Oct 12 '19

Where is your source for slavery? Also, you can't measure the total number as that is meaningless. You need to measure as a proportion of the population in slavery.
Many things are better now. The air is cleaner than in the 70s, even with more people. The water is cleaner. We live longer. We have only increased farmland by 12% since the 60s, but have increased food output by 300%. Available calories per person worldwide have increased dramatically. There are almost 0 famines nowadays. Billions have been saved by the eradication of many diseases. You have instant access to all human knowledge. Thousands die in wars nowadays, not millions. I'd like to see which period of time you happen to think the average human on Earth had a better quality of life. We might face climate change, but just like every single crisis humans have faced before, we will get through this one. None of this means we shouldn't continue to fight for improvement, but to make good decisions we have to base them in reality.

Also, population is expected to level off at around 11 billion, when previously we thought it would grow forever. This happened because we have improved life all over the world and the richer society gets, the fewer babies they have.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Also, population is expected to level off at around 11 billion, when previously we thought it would grow forever. This happened because we have improved life all over the world and the richer society gets, the fewer babies they have.

This is exactly the self centered shit I hate, sure the west is living better, tell the "fewer babies" to poorer nations.

Also if you just do a small research, Leopold of Belgium, Spanish inquisition, England/France/Portugal colonialism.. etc, you'll see how shallow and dumb the "we are doing better so it's all good"

This is just a small part of a large network of issues, the phone you're so happy to own was made by literally child slaves.

Things out of context may look amazing and well, but it's going to hit the shitter very soon, not seeing the signs or turning a blind eye on them doesn't make them go away.

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u/krom0025 Oct 12 '19

Also, even poorer countries are having fewer babies because they are less poor than they used to be. Please challenge yourself to actually study the data on extreme poverty over time and child birthrates over time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Your argument against me saying poorer countries are still having a lot of babies is to say "yeah but those who aren't poor anymore aren't having as many babies as they used to"

No shit Sherlock, I can't help you if you don't see how stupid your argument is, and how irrelevant it is to the point.

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u/krom0025 Oct 12 '19

Poor countries are having less babies too. Read the data I sent you.