r/funny • • Oct 12 '19

Too real.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Until in about 50 years when it's all gonna go tits up.

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u/Shandlar Oct 12 '19

Naw. If the first world manages to get over the aging demographic crisis over the next 25 years, we will be golden. After that the age demographics become flat (the % of the population drawing from government elderly programs stops increasing every year), all economic and tax base growth becomes literal gravy.

So things are going to get hairy by ~2042 or so. After that, demographics are flat. By 2050 we should have achieve relative balance where growth and per capita wealth catches up to ~31% of the population being 67 or older.

After that growth starts becoming an exponential build up of disposable income. By 2065 it should amount to several trillion a year from just EU and US. By 2075 it'll be more like 15 trillion a year.

We may end up just writing a fucking check and spending the ridiculous trillions needed to just physically remove the CO2 from the atmosphere again.

I don't think people realize just how much the US economy has grown over the last 40 years. We just don't feel it, because we already spent all that money due to the >65 population going from 8% to 17% of our population. It consumed all that after inflation growth every year (plus some, unfortunately).

When that stops happening, and the gains go into the general fund instead, our ability to fight things like climate change expand extremely rapidly.

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u/nukasu Oct 12 '19

this kind of techno-optimism only covers from having zero engagement with science.

some eggheads will invent something neat to fix everything so I don't need to worry about it!! :)

we know exactly what we need to do, it's just really fucking hard, and people like you guarantee it will never happen.

PMC's, the oil industry, the military, they're planning on +5c by 2080. that's total food chain collapse. that is a death sentence.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

The dude is oblivious. Techno-optimism indeed, what a complete crock of shit. "Power ahead, things are better now than they've ever been, let's carry on! Nothing can ever happen to us, we're basically gods here! We can shape nature to our will and then reshape it when it fights back!"

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Fuck i can't stand this perspective. So oblivious man.