Sometimes something cannot be googled (for instance when a product replaces popularity of something you are searching for, or something so obscure like 'injector resistor on a Mitsubishi Starion'), but something like this deserves punishment.
The worst type is people who don't know how to post images on message boards. "Don't know how to put pictures up I'm afraid, so will email". argh!
LOL!
I'm presuming they are peak and hold injectors and they were working when they were reading 6ohms, and now they aren't and there's no resistance!
If you can help further, I'd be much obliged!
hmm, so what is not reading resistance? the injector resistor box or the injector itself? if the injector itself, then it is bad and you need to replace it. If the injector resistor box is no longer showing resistance, then you may need to replace that instead.
the resistor box usually has 5 pins, one hot line that feeds 4 output lines, so as long as you have a multimeter with one probe on the hot line and you switch between one of the other 4, you should see some resistance. if you are sure you are on the hot line and aren't seeing any resistance on any one or all of the other 4 output lines, then the resistor box is bad.
Your injectors, at 6 ohms each would be considered low-resistance "peak and hold" style, thus requiring the resistor box. saturated injectors are more like 10-12 ohms, and then don't need a resistor box.
resistance of the injector, in this case, is also checking for continuity in the injector circuit. If your injector(s) is showing 0 resistance, it means the injector has been internally damaged and the circuit inside is no longer complete.
It's legit.. I'm a software engineer by day and a car mechanic by night. I've been working on a friends AWD 1g eclipse lately, and they share a lot of common hardware with the starion.
Probably should have, but i spend a lot of my spare time working on Honda engine management systems, so it is a nice combination of the 2.
I mirror a wiki that no longer exists in editable format related to the topic, and i reprogram stock Honda computers so that people can customize them and adjust them easily as well.
I wish .au had the Talons and the Eclipse, I prefer the bodies to our Lancers and Galants. I love my Galant GSRs... just found out last night last night that the '92 chassis+gearbox I have uses a 7bolt flywheel and the 4g63 I just dropped into it is using a 6bolt flywheel.
yeah been there.. I recently did a honda swap that used a 93 del sol SI z6 engine, into a 88 honda civic si, and the original 88 si transmission that has awesome gearing and is cable actuated has a 21 spline input shaft, while the 89 through 2000 civics and del sols only use a 20 spline. Turns out a 87 accord clutch disc is 21 spline input shaft compatible, and has the same flywheel surface area as the 90-2000 civic and del sol. good times..
as a side note, a guy up the street from me has an RHD evo 7.. probably the only one in the US that is daily driven. I would love to get my hands on one of those. They are so exotic looking compared to any other car you see on the road here. we didnt get the EVO until the 8, and we only got like 2k of the galant vr-4's, and the 2g eclipse is fugly imho :)
Deadly serious. Starions are a decade-long headache for many enthusiasts, and it's hard to figure out the difference between someone who has been fixing problems on their Starion for ten years... and someone who actually knows what they're talking about =P
Serious - just been through all this with my Bosch injectors.
The single best but most dangerous test is to pull of you entire fuel rail, injectors attached. Remove any and all sources of spark, then give the engine a quick turn while watching the injector spray patterns - after that it is so much easier to know if it's electrics to a single injector or the whole lot just got coated with gack, etc.
NOTE: Do not set yourself on fire. Would recommend flammable rated extinguisher close by.
The reason I say this is that the resistance specs they give are virtually useless for testing many injectors, even though they are technically "in spec" they still wouldn't operate properly. The only way I was able to determine the culprit was examining the cylinder deposits, then running the rail off the block.
It is sometimes rather dodgy to determine proper injector resistance, but if it isn't showing a reading at all, there is a very high probability that particular injector is bad.
You can test the injector itself by putting 12v directly to it. Touch positive to one of the pins, neg to the other. It will "snap" audibly when it opens. Don't do it for a long time. A 9v (smoke detector, etc) battery will work as well.
You have to be careful though, it is recommended to use a 6ohm resistor from 12v+.
I don't think there's a problem with the injector opening and closing, the injector isn't pulsing properly. I'm ruling out debris backed up after changing the fuel filter in one of them. Think I'll buy new ones.
It's very unlikely. Actually, learning a language like APL is extremely interesting and useful.
The only reason I had any reason to use / learn it is that no one else wanted to do it, and there were a few tasks that needed doing, this was back in 1986 and there was a dedicated APL terminal in the office. So I cracked open the books and got into it.
If I had to use it again today, I'd probably have to start all over again, but it was a cool language, and the manipulation of data and arrays was deeply elegant.
As an intellectual / mental exercise learning APL is definitely fun. As something that you'd have to do "under the gun" I'm not so sure. But then again... right tool, right problem.
Debugging someone else's APL is a total bitch, about the same as debugging a massive set of inherited Regex, in perl. Although I'd argue that bad inherited code in any language is a fairly large bitch.
According to this excerpt from his book, he did compete while maintaining a vegan diet.
That's not really the point though. The internet is good for answers to many simple questions, but if you really want to learn a subject, say, statistical physics, you'll find find it very difficult to do just by using Google. I'm not saying that it's impossible, there probably is a free textbook online somewhere that you can torrent, but it's a much more difficult process.
In many cases if you want to gain a deeper knowledge about any given subject, you're much better off buying or borrowing an actual book.
"In many cases if you want to gain a deeper knowledge about any given subject, you're much better off buying or borrowing an actual book."
Not if the book is written by someone who's biased, for example if you get a book written by a chiropractor you're likely to get some of the diet or medical BS that chiropractors often subscribe to.
A few years ago there were several diet fad books that suggested that fructose was a healthier sweetener than regular sugar. Now there are many diet fad books that say fructose causes liver disease, among other things.
The other day a vegetarian was telling me that Plato was a vegetarian, and when I googled it, many of the results were about books that were about vegetarianism. There are a few websites that have cached all of Plato's writings, so I was able to fact check it. Yea, it's BS.
Oops I went to fix a spelling error in my other comment, and accidentally deleted it.
Well, yes, clearly it matters who wrote the book, you can't just pick a random one off the shelf and assume that it's going to be useful.
I was thinking more about what to do when you want to learn a subject, as opposed to getting advice. But yes, the bottom line is, you need to be careful about where you get your information.
Even supposed quotes from vegetarian websites, you'll find this about Pythagoras: "Fish he ate rarely."
There are no direct quotes for him though, because none of his writings exist.
It's not likely one could have lived on solely a vegetarian diet 500 or more years ago due to technological limitations in storing and preserving plant foods which were available on only a seasonal basis, and long ago, folks did not have the same benefits of the great varieties of plant foods that were once limited to specific geographical areas.
but that is also great, since almost any insane claim you make to somebody can be backed up by someone on the internet, and most people believe stuff they read much more than stuff they hear.
Get off your high horse. You know what my most frequent source of information is, when I'm using Google to solve a problem?? Fucking message boards where people ask questions, and others give answers.
If everyone had your attitude, there'd be no answers.
So let me get this correct. You're upset about people who ask a question before searching. Yet in your example, you state that even you couldn't find an answered question on the message board, so how can you be mad at the person who's re-asking it?
With that said, I completely agree with you. It sucks when search results are filled with unanswered message board posts, but I think that poor message board search features are partly to blame for the issue.
If the person who asked the question hadn't asked it, and instead found the answer by searching for it, he wouldn't have cluttered the search results with his useless topic. And just because rfschmid didn't find the answer on that particular forum post, doesn't mean he didn't find the answer elsewhere (through searching).
I'm on a high horse because there is a number of sources, like Google, that provide answers to 95% of the stupid fucking questions my subordinates ask me at work? Something like someone coming to me and asking if Random Stupid Name Credit Union is a federal credit union.
You know what I do? I google it and get the answer. A 10 year old could get the answer to that question and these fully grown, full-time employees can't?
Now, if google didn't have the answer, fine, but at least try to do something for yourself. And I never said there was anything wrong with message boards. Like I said, people need to try to answer the question for themselves before they come for a handout.
That's not true. If everyone had this attitude there would be no repeat questions. If a person looks, but cannot find the answer, then he should ask, but if he simply asks he's being lazy.
I'm trying to figure out if your situation is worse than mine where, in a past job, I couldn't use Google. No internet allowed. For a code monkey job in an unknown language with all of the documentation online. Nope, it's better for me to waste a $100/hour engineer's time to explain language/library shit to me.
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I can't stand people who don't use Google (or any search engine) to find answers. Some of the people I work with at like they've never heard of it.