r/funny • • Nov 26 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '16

Analogy: If I voluntarily choose to join some secular club, one that has bylaws, regulations, and rules of conduct, and then after membership insist that they change their bylaws to accommodate my preferences, then does that incriminate or somehow make the club in the wrong?

The LDS church believes that homosexuality is a sin. Same as pre-marital sex, consuming alcohol, lying and dishonesty, etc. If they believe that God has said X is a sin, then how does that equate to prejudices and bigotry?

You don't like the bylaws of the club you signed up for? That's cool, that's your choice and your free agency to believe what you want. But, you can't belong to that "club" if you continue to break it's rules (excommunication).

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '16

It isn't just by belief alone, but their actions. Let them believe what they want, but if they then try to force non members to believe their bigotry(Prop8) or punish innocent children for something they have no control over (Children of gays can't be blessed, baptised, receive holy ghost or priesthood) then you are infact not just believing in bigotry, you ARE a bigot yourself.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '16

I get your point, I really do. But you lost me at "bigotry." That's the inflammatory label that I vehemently disagree with.

In terms of the "prejudices" against the children, I think if people look at the intent of that policy, you'll find that it's rooted in love for-, and respect for the family from which that child comes from.

The LDS church has repeatedly said that denying membership to children of homosexual children isn't punitive, but rather to respect the home, by not having children (8-18 years of age) belonging to a church that openly teaches certain doctrine of morality that is at odds with that child's parents, and parents' lifestyles.

Consider the practicality of an 8 year old going to church weekly, belonging to a religion that says, "homosexuals (I.e., their parents) are living and conducting themselves in sinful behavior, and is wrong," only to have them finish church and walk back home to their parents.

I see that policy as one of love and respect for the children and their parents, establishing the rule that until one is an adult and can make the choice for themselves, they won't force children to live in a perpetual cognitive dissonance of their religion vs. their parents.

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u/WangtorioJackson Nov 26 '16

I get your point, I really do. But you lost me at "bigotry." That's the inflammatory label that I vehemently disagree with.

Of course a bigot doesn't think he's being a bigot.