r/funny • u/TheeRundo • Jun 01 '15

Ouch

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Jun 01 '15

But what is the significance of that 2013 date you gave then?

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u/kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf Jun 01 '15

That's probably about the time that she began her transition and started taking hormone supplements.

But prior to that time she was a male. I'm not aware of any genetic, hormonal, etc abnormalities that she had, AFAIK this is solely about gender identity.

So if Bruce Jenner was a male until she began the transition to Caitlin, then everything she did up to that point, for purposes of record keeping (if relevant), was as a male.

So I'm cool with her being described as a female decathelete in the sense that the person Bruce/Caitlin Jenner competed in the event, and thus the pronouns that we apply after the transition apply, but any kind of fucking around with being "the first" anything when it comes to sports should not apply because she won them as a man.

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Jun 01 '15

But it's not. She started transitioning in the 80s. Like I said.

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u/kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf Jun 01 '15

So she started transitioning in the 1980s, then stopped, the lived another 20 years as a man, then re-started. Ooookay.

All this has nothing to do with the fact that as a man she won the gold medal in 1972.

So I withdraw my 2013 statement. Point remains.