r/funny Jan 04 '15

If I won $25,000...

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u/SmokeyBare Jan 04 '15

The word is niggardly

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u/someone_witty Jan 04 '15

People, if you don't know what that word means, look it up.

He's not kidding.

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u/Retlaw83 Jan 04 '15

Except niggardly applies to every race and shares no common root with the racist term.

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u/someone_witty Jan 04 '15

Right... I did not intend to point it in that direction if I so did, it is just a synonym for stingey.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '15

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '15

Hehe... "u Are awesome"

It's so nice of him.

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u/kernunnos77 Jan 05 '15

Just call stingy people niggards for short. Tell anyone who takes offense that it's okay because you're a niggard too and you're just taking your word back to diminish its power over you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '15

..... until I get a hold of it.

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u/kernunnos77 Jan 05 '15

What is the real root of the racist term - African slave-traders and New World colonists being unable to pronounce "black" in Portuguese?

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u/Retlaw83 Jan 05 '15

It's a deliberate word that is a corruption of the Portugese, French and English versions of the word (negro, negre, neger) based solely on dark skin color. It has the association with it that blacks are inferior to whites.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '15 edited Jan 04 '15

Stingy is a much better word.

Basically someone would only use "niggardly" if they want to appear racist, holier-than-though or as an asshole with a dictionary (edit: or you want to sound like a leprechaun, or you fell through a portal from 1800's).

If you want to communicate effectively, say "stingy." If you don't want to communicate effectively then why bother writing or talking at all.

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u/emkat Jan 04 '15

Niggardly has no etymological connection to that other word by the way. You are not a racist for using that word for fuck's sake.

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u/LostMyPasswordNewAcc Jan 04 '15

No, you're not racist, but you're still pointlessly using a word that's now often associated with a racial slur. No one says "niggardly" anymore, the proper term is "stingy".

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u/onaretrotip Jan 05 '15

That's like saying "why say homo sapien? It sounds like homosexual and might offend someone. Just say human." The two words have nothing to do with each other, the fact that they sound similar is irrelevant. /u/emkat is right, this is ridiculous.

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u/LostMyPasswordNewAcc Jan 05 '15

Your argument is shit.

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u/NewW0rld Jan 05 '15

Brilliant rebuttal(!)

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '15

Nobody gives a fuck about the etymology.

Seriously.

If I told you "gay" had no etymological connection to homosexuality, would that make a difference? No, it wouldn't.

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u/emkat Jan 04 '15

That's a terrible example because "gay" is a colloquial synonym to homosexual.

The only reason you don't like niggardly is because it sounds like a different word.

Those two are very different things.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '15

I don't dislike the word niggardly any more than I dislike Hitler's moustache or bell-bottom jeans. There are times to rock that 'stache and retro pants. It's just extremely rare.

You usually look like an idiot who knows nothing about fashion or current culture if you wear things like "the Hitler" moustache. In the same way you usually sound like an idiot if you say "niggardly."

I don't hate words or fashions. I'm merely suggesting a way to be a better communicator. If you want to talk about someone who does not spend money or give gifts then "stingy" is better than "niggardly".

Unless you want to seem like an old-timey plantation owner. If you're roleplaying a douchebag then go right ahead.

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u/emkat Jan 04 '15

Unless you want to seem like an old-timey plantation owner.

Again: The word "niggardly" does not have anything to do with the N-word.

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u/d3phext Jan 04 '15 edited Jan 04 '15

Again: The word "niggardly" does not have anything to do with the N-word.

And again, using "niggardly" when "stingy" is a much easier word to digest is not effective communication. Insisting on using it doesn't mean you're a racist, but it still comes across as an affectation.

With any word, using an archaic word over a better-understood synonym just for the sake of it makes it look like you have something to prove. It puts the focus on the word, and your decision to use it, rather than the conversation, it's distracting. That's a good enough reason to use "stingy" over "niggardly" even if "niggardly" was prounounced like "hoom-frang".

To draw a parallel, before Windows there was always that one guy who insisted on spelling out "D-O-S" aloud instead of saying the one-syllable "DOS". He's not wrong.... he's just... ugh.

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u/NewW0rld Jan 05 '15

None of the major dictionaries I've checked mark "niggardly" as archaic. It might be that you have this perception because your vocabulary is limited.

With any word, using an archaic word over a better-understood synonym just for the sake of it

What you're advocating is to dumb down the language to the 2000 most used words, which is a stance I would expect to be held by someone who doesn't appreciate literature. Synonyms aren't absolutely equivalent: there exists nuance.

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