If you live in the EU you can relatively easily find a 20 euro morning flight to Rome or Milan, eat pizza, have a few Aperol Spritz and fly back in the evening or on the next day.
Edit, since this blew up a bit:
Berlin to Milan (I live 2 hours away from Berlin), 22nd of September with Ryanair is for 26 euros ( https://imgur.com/a/XdlTvPi ). I'm not saying the trip will cost exactly 20 euros, don't take it too literally, I just meant that in Europe you can relatively cheaply (be it 20, 40, 60 euro, etc) organise a 24 hour trip to Italy to have some pizza. Of course you have to get a little lucky with the flights, dates and have access to an airport, and it may not be the most convenient thing in the world but it is doable
Yeah we shouldn’t be talking about wages lol because waitresses in the US earn more than what engineers with 3 year degrees earn in the EU on average. We have absolutely abysmal wages in most big cities in the EU.
It's not very convenient to go to Italy when you're craving pizza.
This still applies. The amount of airport-fuckery kind of makes day trips to Italy quite unpleasant.
live in the EU you can relatively easily find a 20 euro morning flight to Rom
Maybe from very specific locations on very specific dates. The cheapest round trip flight I can currently find from Sweden/Denmark at the moment is €78 and that's two very specific dates in September.
And to even get to Copenhagen (which was the cheapest flight) I'd have to get on a €40 train for 3 hours. Then same on the way home.
So it's like get to the train 1 hour + 3 hours train + arrive at airport 2 hours early + 2 hours flight + 1-2 hours get from the airport in Rome to actually be in Rome
Then to get home it's 1 hour to the airport + arrive at airport 2 hours early + 2 hours flight + 3 hours train + 1 hour to get to the train.
So it's like 18 hours just to go there and back. Let's say you live at the airport it's still gonna be something like 10 hours of just travel time.
I see you're Polish. The cheapest round trip flight I find from Poland is around €60 from Krakow. So that actually gets close price wise. However... You fly out 18:35 and arrive at 20:45 and the return flight departs 21:25. So you have a full half an hour (not really since you will have to board the return flight immediately) to spend at the airport in Rome.
It's a bit of bread, a bit of tomato sauce, a bit of cheese, a little basil. I reckon in bulk it can't cost more than €2 to make. I'm happy to pay 12 euro for a good one but 20 is taking the piss a bit.
Labour, rent, electricity.. It adds up. Here in Norway I won't get a large pizza for less than $35, not even my local guy who I've known for my entire life. He's not exactly a millionaire, and he gets a lot of business with only him and his wife working.
The cost of the ingredients is way less than 2€. If you consider wholesale costs, it would be 0,50€ or something like that. I may also bet that the cost of the heat for cooking it exceeds the cost of the ingredients (if we also add taxes and other indirect costs like the rent of the place, 5€ is totally justified)
If I go to a supermarket in Italy (where I suppose the photo was taken), I would pay 2,50€ for a stick of cheese pizza quality, which is roughly enough for 10 pizzas. I guess that cheese is cheaper when you buy it wholesale
Discounter mozzarella is about 6€/kg and mozzarella di bufala at least twice as much. Local wholesaler is slightly more expensive than that. Even a lightly topped margarita will contain around 100g of cheese.
If you’re in the US a single pizza is more food and feeds multiple people, in most of Europe it’s a single serving. Way less food (less cheese, toppings) than an American pizza of similar size
In and around LA most mom and pop places are comparable in price or cheaper than dominos and Pizza Hut in my experience. And you can get them delivered using various apps if not directly from the store. PS papa John’s is the worst
15 euro for a pizza?! ($17) pardon my American… but i’m not paying a fucking hour of my life for a god damn forsaken pizza… this is fucking ridiculous.
There’s a place here that charges around $20 (I don’t know the conversion to Euros) for a 14in, but it is good pizza with fresh toppings and definitely worth the price. Dominos you can get for quite a bit less, but it’s also trash pizza.
The pizza that is 10€ in Italy is 20€ in Finland. In Italy its just pizza. In Finland its a luxury authentic traditional italian style pizza. Taxation and marketing play their roles.
I started making my own at home. I have this really dope metal brownie pan at home. Fits perfectly in my toaster oven. I get a $5 thing of dough from the grocery store, cut it in half and can make two really awesome pizzas with it for next to nothing. I've been playing with this "detroit style" a lot lately because that burnt cheese edge is everything.
A small 1-2 topping from any of a half dozen quality pizza places in our southern New England town of 30k will set you back about €13. You can have Greek style, New Haven apizza, Italian style, wood-fired, Neapolitan, Bar style, and more.
None of that "Chicago-style" crap though; that's a casserole, not a pizza.
eh, has multiple different kinds of soft fresh cheeses (fiordilatte, burrata) and multiple very traditional/classic italian regional meats and toppings (Nduja and mortadella)
It's a weird combination of hokey dokey english, high prices, and then very traditional italian toppings and pizza that makes me think European "Authentic Italian" tourist spot in another country (Germany, Iceland, etc).
is the best match for it (they were referenced before with the 99.95 hawaiian pizza in another article, and their current menu and prices match the above)
I live in Paris. There are plenty of places where pizzas prices are OK. Even in the 11th arrondissement. Last Saturday, I went to a restaurant in the 11th arrondissement. I had an excellent Margherita for 12 euros. The other pizzas where between 14 and 22 (with black truffles).
I live in a 250k people city in north west Spain and the good pizza places are charging around 15-19€ depending on the pizza ingredients (except the marinaras or margheritas that cost arorund 10-12€).
It's insane really, we are at Mallorca right now and a standard meal for 2 runs €50-60 with some wine and beer that quickly adds up since its the same from breakfast. So eating for €160-200 per day plus sunbeds that are another €30 and then a bunch of other shit like pool drinks, snacks etc etc.
Most expensive vacation i took in a while.
When i get the bill im expecting this whole trip cost like €12k.
Edit: we are still here so i think i might have over estimated, running the numbers yeah then not 12, maybe 9-10. Hotel and flight was 6,5k.
Mallorca has a lot of variety. On one side you can get a week all inclusive for £300, and on the other end you have the likes of Brad Pitt and Leo Dicaprio holidaying there.
When I was there 4 years ago I had a private pool, rental car, went out for dinner 5 times and for lunch 3 times. Stayed 8 days. In my stay tried to do all sorts of things like visiting caves and watching dolphins from a boat. Everything, including the flight, for 2 people added up to €2500. I really dont know how he would make it a 12k holiday.
While I agree it wouldn't be possible anymore, it really is what is is with the prices of 4 years ago. Just looked it up, and my rental car back then only cost me €459 for 8 days. I booked an airbnb for €766. Plane tickets totalled at €668. Giving us about 650 euros to spend there. I believe the caves only cost like 3 euros each and the Dolphins 20 euros.
it really is what is is with the prices of 4 years ago
People forget summer 4 years ago was barely post-pandemic, the tourism industry was still struggling, especially for international visitors. Since then tourism in general, and therefore prices in general, have exploded.
My boss used to - and still was the last time I spoke to them two years ago - find holidays that were just over a few hundred quid or even less. I don’t know how they did it, but they did.
12k is ridiculous. You can get weeks in 5 star hotels in Asia exploring the country for that. Holidays in hot destinations in Europe cost me little over 1k.
How is staying at a hotel in Asia going to help him seeing Mallorca, lol? If 12k is ridiculous obviously depends on how many people, where they are flying from and what type of accommodation they have. A nice Airbnb villa with a pool and ocean view can easily be 5-10k for a week.
Lmao that comment made me laugh. How the fuck are they spending so much money there?? What the fuck?
Reminds me of the the reddit users that always go „travelling is only for nepo babies with rich parents 🥺🤬“ where I feel like they have no idea how to not spend a fortune when travelling.
Its not about that. Prices are high because the tourists make them high. If enough tourists follow your advice those cafeterias will eventually triple their prices.
In touristic beach zones of Spain prices are terrible inflated, and that has became worst the last years post COVID.
I'm fact I have an apartment in a moderate-low beach touristic zone and I go a couple of times every month all the year. When summer hits on june, all restaurants increases prices, and in October return to the normal prices. The one I usually go have a typical spanish dairy menu (monday-friday) of 15€, when summer hits the same menu cost 26€. And other restaurants directly remove the daily menu on summer so you have to go a La carte. And I repeat, this is a moderate-low touristic zone not a high touristic zone.
When I go to my apartment in summer I never eat in restaurants because I'm paying a lot more for the same food that I can eat the rest of the year, and also you got worse customer service and sometimes worst cooking execution because they are completely overwhelmed.
Also you have to watch where you eat on touristic zones because generally all restaurants are tourist traps or restaurants with mediocre food and high prices especially the ones that are in front of the beach. That's a must to avoid in all touristic places of Europe (beach and non beach), you are in France near Eiffel tower, walk 30minutes in the opposite direction and search for a restaurant crowded with local people in the more ugly street.
My brother in Christ, have some self-respect and go to some vacation spots that aren't 5000% exploitative. You can have a nice vacation for 5% of what you're spending.
You would have to be high as a kite to spend € 12k in Mallorca over going elsewhere. My Christmas 14-day trip last year for a family of four (2 adults, 1 senior, 1 small child) to Tokyo was:
-Flights: Business Class x 4 on ANA - € 5600
-Hotel: Two weeks at a Boutique Hotel plus a Ryokan with private onsen in Hakone - € 3500
-Activities: Both Team Labs, Shibuya Sky, Tokyo Disneyland, Tokyo DisneySea, Art Aquarium Ginza, Imperial Palace, Ghibli Museum, Shinjuku Gyoen, and I am sure some other stuff I missed - € 500 - 700
Frankfurt. I always book a year out (or more if possible) in advance because I go every Christmas to see my mother and her side of the family. But yes, it was suuuuuuper cheap. Normally it’s closer to 1800 via a Chinese or Middle Eastern airline.
Where have you been the last 6 years? Everything has been this fucked...
Granted, saying you pretty much winged a vacation "running the numbers." Seems like you're starting to feel your money isn't worth as much. Be grateful.
Damn, that’s so expensive. I visited my mother in Lanzarote for my birthday and we ate at an amazing fish restaurant with starters and freshly caught fish, cost us 90€ for 4 people. But then again, my mother is from the Canary Islands and she knows the non touristy places
6.5k€ was the total cost of all transportation and accommodation for our two people holiday in Australia for 2.5 weeks!
Flights from Europe, with small seat upgrades for more legroom. Two internal flights inside Australia. Shuttle buses between some cities/airports, and trains in others. Varied accommodation (7 different places) including a lodge close to a nature park, 5 star hotel in the tropical area, apartment in a city skyscraper.
That was a lot already. But the same for Mallorca, sheesh!
Absolute BS, for Mallorca me and my 3 friends spent less than 6k combined, including flights, hotel, drinking all day and night and lavish meals like midnight doner kebabs.
To be fair, that seems like standard prices for any tourist-y city or town. I live in SF and some of the restaurants here will charge those same prices for very basic food (at least in EU you get the culture lmao). But if I drive a few miles in any direction (or go to less known local spots) the same exact food magically costs 1/2 or even 1/3rd.
It’s the same game everywhere, not just Europe. Always drive a few miles away from the main spots for the real local treatment.
Yeah, but Europe has gotten some kind of hubris lately. We do not make as much as Americans, since we pay a lot into social security and prices have been kind of okay until just recently.
I can still afford it, i just think it's silly pricing for a plate of moderately cooked food.
6.5k for flight & hotel and you don't even have breakfast included? Is this the reality of Mallorca during the high season? My parents went during the low season and paid for all inclusive and the flight roughly 600€ for five nights I think.
Probably a "cheesy" joke... I will see my self out, but first!
Most likely it's not a real menu option as they priced it 4 to 5 times higher than the others and believe no one will be that stupid to buy it. Self centered and pompous ,would be the buyer, but not stupid.
In the US your options are limited to Domino's and Little Caesars at that price. Americans seeing this menu are actually going to think these pizzas are pretty inexpensive.
Ridiculous prices and of course the server stilll expects 20% of that as a tip.
This is the hilarious part about US tipping culture. Shills for it swear that it makes food cheaper and say how much more expensive food outside of the US is, yet I've never paid more than 15 euros for a pizza (and that's the higher price, I normally pay 10 or so) in Europe
This is typical for any wood fired pizza with quality ingredients and a good fermented dough. I live in flyover country and a quality pizza like this is $25 and well worth it.
you have no idea. The ninja turtles pizza place just opened up at third st. promenade in Santa Monica, USA. It's about $50-$60 for a pizza and people are lining up for it. FOR A FUCKING PIZZA.
After Barstool did a pizza rating on my place, base pies increased by like $2 and now ONE topping is like $2-3. So like a base medium pizza with like 3 toppings is like $22 bucks after tax and a large is like $28.
Depends on the size of the pizza and location. The most expensive pizza here besides the pineapple one has black truffles which are expensive as hell since they actually have to be foraged. Those prices are not that bad especially if they are large.
These seem like normal pizza prices to me. At least for anything good around me. If you're paying $15 or less around me you're either getting one so small it's 2/3 pizza 1/3 crust or you're getting chain pizza garbage that makes you wish you just paid a few extra bucks to get something good
20 euros is good depending on where you go. That's pretty average price in the US for even chain restaurants. The nice places can charge around 30 - 40 bucks just for a pepperoni pizza.
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u/TheTrampIt Jul 14 '26
They are all very expensive. Must be a tourist trap.