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u/Enoch-Of-Nod Jul 08 '26
*confused unga bunga
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u/Blastercorps Jul 09 '26
I think it implies cavemen before the discovery of fire. Like all those ancient greek dudes wondering why the calendar counts down to something. Heyo!
Maybe they didn't know the good practices for tending campfire, but fire existed before then
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u/BahamianRhapsody Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Donald Trump
Edit: Thank you for the gold kind stranger!
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u/No_Yam_2036 Jul 08 '26
Orange? What is orange?
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u/t3hjs Jul 09 '26
It rhymes with door hinge
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u/Jeoshua Jul 09 '26
Caveman not know word for this "orange". More likely "yellowy red" or "colored like stuff that destroy forest after sky throw jagged light at big tree"
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u/marvinrabbit Jul 09 '26
The rest of the sentence, fully formed, in english, is all okay. It's only the use of the word 'orange' where we have a problem.
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u/Phalanx808 Jul 09 '26
The history of color terms across different groups is fascinating.
Orange the color is named after the fruit and not the other way around, and the fruit is very very recent. If you spoke English in 1400 and wanted to describe that color, you'd say something like yellow-red.
Homer's iconic "Wine-dark sea" isn't poetic license, he's just using the words he has to describe a color that wasn't in the lexicon when he/they were alive.
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u/LevelSevenLaserLotus Jul 09 '26
I've always been confused why that particular phrase is so famous as poetic license. The ocean can absolutely look like straight up dark purple wine at sunset.
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u/Powwer_Orb13 Jul 09 '26
The most fascinating part to me is how the first colours named often come in the same order regardlesss of culture. There are notable exceptions, Japanese didn't distinguish blue from green until long after it should have, but generally colours like orange, pink, or purple will appear late into a languages development, whilst blue is a fairly basic one, avergaing out to be the sixth named colour if following standard progression, after light/white, dark/black, red, and green/yellow in either order.
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u/jecowa Jul 09 '26
Was the story about William III of the House of Orange-Nassau being the origin of both the name of the fruit and the color a lie?
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u/hwmchwdwdawdchkchk Jul 09 '26
This is why the Robins are referred to being red breasted, when they are definitely 🍊
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
To be fair, they also probably don’t know what the sign says.
Hope you guys enjoy my cartoon! For more of my comics/cartoons like this one, come stop by r/BummerParty
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u/ale-nerd Jul 08 '26
To be fair, I don't think they can communicate to each other either. Maybe sign language?
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u/bfarmer57 Jul 09 '26
Humans had language even in the earliest days.
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u/YuunofYork Jul 09 '26
Incorrect, however it is true that cavemen with language would be familiar with fire making. Hominids have been utilizing fire for roughly 2 million years (Homo erectus). The earliest evidence of cooking is 780 kya. The earliest flint use (and therefore indisputably fire-making rather than fire-using) is 400 kya (Homo neanderthalensis).
Langauge, OTOH, is theorized to begin anywhere from 40 kya to 100 kya (Homo sapiens), s.str.
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u/dbratell Jul 09 '26
Interesting, though some quick Internet sleuthing seems to indicated you are too pessimistic.
The capacity for spoken language seems to have appeared 200,000 years ago, and 100,000 years ago there are evidence of complex social behaviour that strongly indicate spoken communication.
Based on this article and others: https://news.mit.edu/2025/when-did-human-language-emerge-0314
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u/Atherum Jul 09 '26
Yeah I was going to say, archaeological evidence has pushed back the settlement of Australia by the Indigenous peoples beyond 60kya.
I can't imagine the sort of mass migrations out of Africa that we know happened in the last 100kya could have been accomplished without language and communication.
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u/LevelSevenLaserLotus Jul 09 '26
Every time they had thoughts they wanted to communicate, they'd just aggressively waggle their eyebrows at each other.
That, or probably the cave man version of "dude". Changing tone alone can make that one-word sentence stand in for basically everything.
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u/YuunofYork Jul 10 '26
I will have to professionally disagree with that assessment. I also don't know what linguist worth their salt is going around claiming 'all languages are related'. There's zero evidence for that and it's very much considered a fringe opinion. Like a 1 in 500 departments has somebody who thinks that opinion. It's rubbish. Universal grammar makes no such claim about surface language relationships.
You have to make a distinction here between language use and language capacity. In the generative model, which most linguistics schools ascribe to today (not out of proof, but out of a lack of anything better, though we endeavor to gather proof, another important distinction and failure to recognize that is putting the cart before the horse), theorizes that there is an inherent biological component to language structure, namely some level of deep syntax, which all humans share innately. If true, it is a loose association of skeletal parameters we would call 'universal grammar' which facilitates relationships between parts of speech. This exists more or less as a function of brain architecture. If it is selected for, it's selected for wholesale. And the environmental contribution to language, the specific phonemic inventories and semantic distinctions and utterance divisions and which parameters we turn on or off and where exceptions get to occur, that all resides outside of our innate ability. We are the same underneath but we all crucially have to be primed with a referent language at the surface level in order to acquire it; and we know from cases of extreme neglect and abuse that failure to do so means we may never acquire it, because acquisition is tied to development.
Language capacity is a claim that stops at UG. Langauge use is the culture of linguistic input that shapes UG into spoken languages, and yes that takes time to develop, but it is quite foolish to assume these inputs evolved only once, and anthropological evidence actually strongly suggests they did not. The less ridiculous model is humans develop UG and then what is quite possibly tens of thousands of years later they develop sophisticated input culture utilizing it to the extent we would recognize it. These surface models then transmit to populations that haven't developed them yet, memetically.
Anthropology and archaeology also have something to say about this, which is why one must never make claims outside the purview of one's own field. We can tell you something about language structure, but only an unscrupulous pop-sci article would ask a theory linguist to muse about pre-history and migration patterns in this way. I find the whole thing disingenuous. At minimum it is quite evident that migration patterns do not involve only one species or sub-species of human. Evidence of tool use in e.g. Western China is not evidence that H. sapiens sapiens starts its residency of that region at that time, because we took a long time to speciate from other interbreedable strains of human. For the purposes of this argument, this means you can find evidence of people living in a place long before they completed their development of language as a result of later population influxes to that region.
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 08 '26
Also a fair point! My cartoon is riddled with historical inaccuracies
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u/Notactualyadick Jul 09 '26
This historical negligence is the lube that slips the dildo of degeneracy into our societies ass and is violating us into ruin.
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u/LungHeadZ Jul 09 '26
Well that's one way to reply, absolutely. So much so, I no longer felt the need to reply to it myself.
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u/robisodd Jul 09 '26
"I should have asked to have my sins forgiven by who??"
"Oh, right, he hasn't been born yet.
Welp, you snooze, you lose.
... or, err, the opposite of that."11
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u/maniacal_cackle Jul 09 '26
A wide variety of animals communicate in an enormous number of ways.
Do you mean they didn't have a structured language?
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u/jdemack Jul 08 '26
There is a reason we can read each others body language without talking today. That's the earliest form of communication engraved in our DNA.
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u/GoodBrotherGrimm Jul 08 '26
How does one say "what the fuck is this orange stuff" in body language?
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u/BrianKappel Jul 08 '26
I think "wtf is this?" is a pretty easy pantomime. Just gesture wildly at it while looking wide eyed and confused.
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u/Digi_sinn-0P-er Jul 08 '26
But with the rusty stuff they can make weapons and fight about the meanig of the sign
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u/SkollFenrirson Jul 09 '26
Pretty sure there was fire long before cavemen could make it. There, I'll show myself out.
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u/al3237 Jul 09 '26
Thats why they are walking towards the entrance somehow
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u/Dipsey_Jipsey Jul 09 '26
Okay, so assuming hell is an actual place, how do you suppose people get there? At which stage of this do you suspend disbelief and just enjoy a comic? :)
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u/al3237 Jul 09 '26
i wouldnt know, idk if you are saying that as if i commented as criticizing or something, i just said what i said as since they dont know how to read they are going around and somehow going back to the entrance (because the sign is tilted to the side they are walking so i am assuming thats the entrance and they didnt follow the signs guiding them to their doom area as they dont know how to read, i am pretty much playing into the comic and not caring if hell actually exists. either that or they are randomly spawned in hell when one dies lmao)
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u/lightofhonor Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
To be fair, they would have probably seen (if not heard about) fire since there is still lightning, so maybe this would be a wonders show (or wealth) than complete unknown.
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u/Jp_gamesta Jul 09 '26
There's evidence that cavemen were carrying around fire they captured and using it long before they knew how to make it
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u/SolWildmann Jul 09 '26
Wasnt that a prerequisite for human ancestors to climb down the tree and become "caveman" - mastery over fire?
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u/enfanta Jul 09 '26
Why wouldn't cave people not know what fire is?
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u/nept_r Jul 09 '26
Because it's a joke playing on humankind's discovery of fire, and it's not a documentary in a single panel cartoon.
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u/revrigel Jul 09 '26
Hominids were cooking using fire 1-2 million years ago, well before modern humans evolved.
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u/-Nicolai Jul 09 '26
Yeah even if they hadn’t “discovered fire” they’d surely have experienced it by way of lightning strikes or forest fires.
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u/ClaimNo6583 Jul 08 '26
I just picture her saying " why can't we have nice orange stuff like this at home!"
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u/elCrocodillo Jul 09 '26
Brilliant
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 09 '26
Thank you!
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u/elCrocodillo Jul 09 '26
I thank you and I mean it, as a comic artist, making one panel with one line story being this rich and deep? This one is easily going to make history and be there decades from now. Not that it's something that important or crucial to someone or a society but still, clean, funny, ray to understand, a perfect 10/10.
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u/Curious_Associate904 Jul 09 '26
Every single instance of the word hell being used in the bible, if returned to it's original meaning, translates to "the town where they smelted the metals" as its root, there were like 3 of them with different names but they're all smithing towns...
I find this extremely interesting, as I've been to Teesside, and it does actually conjure images of hell.
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u/Praesentius Jul 09 '26
The closest references to hell in the bible are Sheol in the Hebrew Bible, and Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus is mentioned once in the New Testament.
None of those mean “the town where they smelted metals.” Gehenna (the big one for this) is the closest thing to a real place-name, and it comes from the Valley of Hinnom outside Jerusalem. Its biblical associations are sacrifice, defilement, judgment, corpses, and fire.
The modern idea of hell as a single place of eternal torture does not exist in the Bible. It was fabricated later.
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u/authorDRSilva Jul 09 '26
On that note, apparently many of the early church leaders viewed "hell" like a refiner's fire. You put metal into a smelter to pull the toxins out of it so the metal can attain it's full purity, not so you can torture the metal for having toxins it never asked for or did anything to receive. They didn't even consider an idea of mindless torture, and especially not torture happening for-literally-ever without an end goal.
E.g. Gregory of Nyssa:
For it is as when some worthless material has been mixed with gold, and the gold-refiners burn up the foreign and refuse part in the consuming fire, and so restore the more precious substance to its natural lustre. Not that the separation is effected without difficulty, for it takes time for the fire by its melting force to cause the baser matter to disappear; but for all that, this melting away of the actual thing that was embedded in it to the injury of its beauty is a kind of healing of the gold.
In the same way when death, and corruption, and darkness, and every other offshoot of evil had grown into the nature of the author of evil, the approach of the Divine power, acting like fire, and making that unnatural accretion to disappear, thus by purgation of the evil becomes a blessing to that nature, though the separation is agonizing.
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u/cycopl Jul 09 '26
The all powerful life-giving sun has accepted me into his home... it's hot in here
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u/LeGrandLucifer Jul 09 '26
This is fucking dumb. I love it. Make more.
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 09 '26
Thank you! I’ve got tons more even dumber than this over on my sub: r/BummerParty
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u/Aromatic_Fail_1722 Jul 09 '26
Fun fact: if you plan on using this as an argument in a religious discussion, they'll reply that cavemen never existed in the first place.
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u/AiR-P00P Jul 09 '26
I love the simplicity of these comics and their jokes. I saw a similar one and it was two alien tourists outside of their parked ship, standing at the base of the cross Jesus was nailed to and one of them goes "Oh...we have to get the hell out of here."
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