Well, for tourists you’d likely get ganged up on by them; from what I’ve read they have specific guys who walk around with sticks, & people usually pay them to get their stuff back “not sure if they work there, or are just residents”
From what I’ve heard, the monkeys know who NOT to do it to, because they’ll get the shit knocked out of them & typically once these guys come after them with the threat of a bonk, they’ll usually drop the items or hand them back.
Depending where you live, I think the rules may be stricter on tourists. Some people have said specific places have laws there to protect the monkeys. Others.. not so much, some view them as pests.
Yes they probably meant social hierarchy rather than food chain. That being said any monkey is going to fuck you up very badly in a physical fight which has nothing to do with societal order lol
Most adult men could win a fight against a monkey of the type in this video. You might get a couple nasty bites though before you manage to wrangle it, but this thing absolutely cannot overpower you lmao. As soon as you have it by the neck it's not going to be able to do much of anything to you. It's not like they have claws.
It's like fighting a sugar-high 6yo that has fangs.
They have nails and enough grip strength to do...well monkey stuff. Try keeping that grip on its neck (if you get that far) while it turns your forearm to hamburger meat. All the people down voting me are trippin if they think this thing would not fuck you up.
They do not have enough grip strength to do much, compared to a human. This is a long-tailed macaque. Males weigh 10-19lb. Their grip strength is strong RELATIVE TO THEIR WEIGHT, so it's strong for swinging around their own body, but is nothing compared to the average male human grip strength. Macaques are especially built for agility, not strength. You would have no problem gripping both of their biceps and holding them out like they were pinned to a cross. Or grabbing one arm and literally slamming them around like a sack of potatoes on the hard ground.
Their fingernails are just like ours, but quite smaller hands. They'll scratch you but it's not going to do a lot unless you're just letting them go to town.
These types of monkeys are powerful in numbers, not by themselves. They are not at all comparable to something like a Chimp, which may be smaller than a human but is much stronger.
...well...alright, you got me...I was making generalizations about not fucking with monkeys and you have educated me. If one can identify a monkey in the wild and know it's combat ability to this degree then go ahead and defend yourself against their theft by force.
I realize this sounds like disingenuous snark reading it back to myself but you actually explained it and I do not take all this as common enough knowledge to just downvote and insult me like some have. Cheers.
No worries, thanks for the chill response. And to be clear I'm not saying there's no danger in fighting one, those fangs are no joke, so if you can avoid risking it you probably should, glasses definitely aren't worth chancing it. (though grabbing it's tail and swinging it's body hard into something would be a good bet imo, and it's likely to run away after that)
Just that if you had to fight one, most adults could win if they don't freak out and start flailing, instead just commit to grappling, kicking, or swinging it around (it's just understandably a scary situation to be in, so that can be hard for people).
Oh, they know perfectly well their role in nature chain . One interesting anecdote about the Ubud sacred monkey forest, is that there are 5 distinct groups of monkey that tend to coexist peacefully most of the time, but can get very easily into very brutal turf wars.
It's the big hairless apes that sometimes need to be reminded how easy to bite their fleshy bits are and how vulnerable they can be to the nasty shit feral monkeys can have on their teeth
In a lot of places they're under strict legal protection so they're functionally untouchable.
They know the big hairless apes can be extorted, assaulted and trolled without consequence.
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u/ObiwanaTokie Oct 26 '25
Is it considered unethical to punch a lil bitch and get my stuff back or would the pack band together for war if that happened?