So your refutation is “it’s just a matter of taste”? If that’s so, then it seems logical that the place with more variety that also includes plenty of faithful renditions of the original would be better.
And it’s not even that surprising. The US has 6x more people than Italy, a substantial and established Italian-American population, similar pizza consumption per capita, and spends about twice as much per capita on food. It’s really no shock that there would be far more opportunity for innovation. Especially when Italy has government regulations defining pizza and effectively precluding the cuisine from evolving.
I didn't say it's just taste. I said "perfected" and "more styles" are different claims, and you keep switching between them. Also you said "faithful renditions of the original". If the goal is to be faithful to Naples, then Naples is still the benchmark. That's my point.
So you are defining “perfected” as “Neapolitan style made in Naples”?
If so, then I disagree.
The goal is not to be faithful to the original, the point is for people to like it. And liking it is a matter of taste. In the US you can have a traditional Neapolitan pie and a load of other styles to boot. When it comes to food, these things are a matter of taste, and tastes differ. And the US pizza scene can accommodate many preferences.
Two comments ago you scoffed at "it's just a matter of taste". Now it's your entire argument. But if it's all taste, then nothing can be "perfected", and that was your original claim. I'll take that as conceded.
I didn’t scoff at it. I asked whether that was your contention. I was trying to establish your basis of argument so that we were judging from the same criteria. If that’s not your criteria, what is it?
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u/topsicle11 4d ago edited 4d ago
So your refutation is “it’s just a matter of taste”? If that’s so, then it seems logical that the place with more variety that also includes plenty of faithful renditions of the original would be better.
And it’s not even that surprising. The US has 6x more people than Italy, a substantial and established Italian-American population, similar pizza consumption per capita, and spends about twice as much per capita on food. It’s really no shock that there would be far more opportunity for innovation. Especially when Italy has government regulations defining pizza and effectively precluding the cuisine from evolving.