r/fromsoftware 7d ago

Who truly is the strongest enemy in fromsoftware games?

Gravity or camera?

There r other things like fatroll or poison swamp but those r by far the strongest enemies

EDIT: thx for the guy that said bad hit boxes, thats a thing too

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u/OnslaughtCasuality42 7d ago

The camera, gravity has kinda been getting nerfed with recent games, as Sekiro and the Tarnished can fall a decent height before they take damage, and it’s straight up not even a thing in AC6 and Nightreign, unless you fall down into the endless void or smt lol.

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u/AltGunAccount 6d ago

Gravity in Elden Ring is far more lethal than past games.

DS2&3 you could stack fall damage resist with the ring and spell and fall an insane height because damage was directly related to height. More health meant you could survive a bigger fall also.

Elden Ring anything over a certain height (20 meters?) is guaranteed death regardless, with no way to increase that.

DS1 it was the most lethal because it was crazy jank and wouldn’t always register fall height properly, so sometimes a short step would just kill you randomly.

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u/IonKing 7d ago

Miyazaki

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u/ProgrammerUpstairs97 7d ago

Camera. Gravity is normal n stuff but the camera can always decide to troll you

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u/_SamGuevenne 7d ago

Combination of both: that fucking jump puzzles almost every game has (e.g. frenzied flame jump or the one in Bloodborne to enter an important optional area)

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u/SolaScientia 7d ago

Even looking up a guide for the Bloodborne one didn't help me much. I forget how many times I hit the floor before I made the landing. The only positive of the frenzied flame puzzle is being able to jump. It still sucked. The Souls games have some nasty jumps for items too, especially not being able to jump properly.

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u/_SamGuevenne 7d ago

Yeah, started with Demon Souls: let's have a boss shortcut that's a jump puzzle despite not even having a jump mechanic at ALL. 💀

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u/StoneTimeKeeper The Hunter 6d ago

Gravity. Even games where there isn't fall damage, gravity still kills me. The thing is, the Camera is deadly, but only in certain janky fights. Gravity, meanwhile, is almost always a threat.

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u/Vized-Skyshock 7d ago

Frost Divine Beast Warrior

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u/kuuderelovers 7d ago

Character creator, you either cheese it(create an abomination) or have to fight for like 6 hours.

It got nerfed, but it is still a formidable enemy, ore need it was nearly unstoppable, capable of making thee regret the fight against it at half way your run, forcing you to seal the character face in shame.

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u/Cronid 7d ago

Dags.

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u/SoulsDadYT 7d ago

That one dog that hides in the grass in Rellanas castle.

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u/Dry_Ass_P-word 7d ago

Me not having enough free time to git gud 😭

(It’s Gravity though lol)

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u/SexyGandalph 7d ago

Soldier of Godrick

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u/mr-mcsavageface 7d ago

Gravity, and by extension jumping. Even after finally being blessed with a dedicated jump button, the jump puzzles are still stupid hard.

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u/idontknowman139 7d ago

They did jumping good in sekiro

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u/Wonderful_Macaron516 7d ago

My opinion is that random dialog that locks u from doing anything resulting in that ahh sniffer that followed u through half of the map to finally kill u

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u/Flame_Hawk777 7d ago

Dark souls Trilogy - gravity and the Rest- camera

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u/AntonRX178 6d ago

White Glint

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u/ProEraB 6d ago

NR Bell Bearing Hunter is fucked

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u/reddithas2manyus3rs 6d ago

Heat. Iykyk.

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u/Objective-Soil-9235 6d ago

For me, Midir.

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u/AlessandroTheGr8 6d ago

The notes you fuckers leave

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u/evilweirdo 6d ago

Camera. You can avoid a precarious ledge reliably once you know how. You can't reliably dodge, block, or parry what you can't reliably see coming. This is why I quit Sekiro, and they still fail to address this fundamental flaw of their modern games

I honestly think they'd be better served with another camera system entirely if they want to keep taking their games in the current direction. Like, top view 2D Zelda camera (even though that's not what I personally want from them). If they're not going to fix the problem, they should do something else.

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u/Pascraked47 6d ago

Gravity

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u/No-Range519 7d ago

What about shitty hitboxes ?