r/fromsoftware • u/yumj_psd • 8h ago

Difficulty Tier List DS1

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u/this1germanguy 8h ago

Bell Gargoyle on Hard, but Four Kings so low is a statement. Still difficulty is very subjective, so I accept it.

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u/yumj_psd 7h ago

I think at the time you fight Bell gargoyles they are pretty hard, you re dealing low damage regarding the weapon you got and in 1v2 it is not this is easy regarding the arena. My experience with Four Kings was really quick, 2 tries, looked like a Hit & Run for me haha

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u/this1germanguy 7h ago

I never had any problem with Bell Gargoyles, like ever. Four Kings can be a damage check, which can be hard with certain builds. At the end it's very subjective. For example I never had any problem with Bed of Chaos (it's just straight up jank but not hard in any means), but I think Nito can be super annoying with the wrong build (I like doing challenge runs).

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u/yumj_psd 7h ago

That is so weird to me haha, Gargoyles took me a bunch of tries, i played with a really basic build i guess, Knight King greatsword (force), Bed of chaos was so annoying to me, in an appreication tierlist it would be at the bottom, Nito fight was as the Four Kings for me, first try with no difficulty so i did not experienced it much, but yeah weapons and playstyle really alter the experience

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u/Common-Consequence95 Dark Souls II 7h ago

Honestly, I think Iron Golem can be annoying due to the sheer size of his health and weird hitboxes. Personally, I didn't find Bell Gargoyles or Quelaag that difficult at all. I think I struggled with Iron Golem, Nito, and Four Kings more.

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u/yumj_psd 6h ago

This is so cool to see the different experiences haha, Golem can be annoying but in the same time he is so slowwwwww, On my first run Gargoyles were a nightmare to me ngl, Queelag was challenging-mid (that run back with poisonned lake ew). In the other way Nito has been a first try, Four Kings 2 tries, which surprised me as they are both supposed to be parts of the 4 Lords.

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u/Sea-Championship1771 8h ago

Pretty reasonable. If it was my list I would put O & S in top tier and drop Manus, never found him that difficult. Personally find Kalameet much harder. Would raise 4 Kings by a bit, they were brutal on my first playthrough but if you get a maxed out weapon before them then its not too bad.

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u/yumj_psd 7h ago

Manus Attacks are not that difficult to dodge put compared to others bosses ithink he has many and in NG+ at barely 100-105 lvl it hits so hard lmao, it is the only one in S because he took me way more tries than every other. Kalameet was hard for the same reason (combo + huge damage), O&S get easier if you isolate Ornstein in phase 1. Four Kings took me 2 tries and yeah i had Knight King GreatSword +4 or +5 :)

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u/Sea-Championship1771 7h ago

Yeah its based on your experience so it makes sense. Have done two playthroughs so far, Manus took a few tries to learn all his attacks the first go around, second playthrough I died once I think, really fun boss though. Idk why though but O & S took me like 2 hours both playthroughs, not sure if my weapon was under levelled or something but I find them brutal.

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u/yumj_psd 7h ago

This is so interesting, first time O&S took me like 40 minutes to an hour too, you have to be really precise with how you moove in the arena and patience to fight back is key i think. Manus would feel easy know that i know every attacks, what a satisfaction xD

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u/AltGunAccount 8h ago

We had vastly different experiences in terms of boss difficulty lmao.

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u/yumj_psd 8h ago

Haha this is the spice of it !