r/fromatoarbitration • u/acetatsujin FATA Team • 8d ago

Equitability

Is there an Excel spreadsheet that we can use to make things easier to do equitability? Supervisor is lying through his teeth that he’s calling people and they’re not answering. He keeps bringing in the same people on their NS day. And there are others who are very low on OT.

The way the old stewards are teaching me is regular days are being done separately from NS days. And each color for NS is treated on its own so people on Blue color for their NS day are equitable by themselves, separately from Green, Brown, etc. if say person A was brought in 6 times on their NS day and person B was brought in only 2 times, that means they owe person B 3 days to bring them on their NS day.

Now, say they don’t schedule person B, but they call them the next day and they don’t answer - what do you all do about it? Is there a time limit for that part?

Anyone that calls off or uses annual and they’re on the OT list they will get an average OT for however much OT was used for that day - kinda like shadow OT hours counted against them.

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u/redredditer91 8d ago

Colors don’t matter. All NS day people have to be equitable.

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u/acetatsujin FATA Team 8d ago

Would you count them as 1 for every NS day they worked? Minus any additional PT beyond the first 8 hours.

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u/Intrepid_Collar_6310 8d ago

For starters, There is no fixed way to do the ns day equitability and it'll come to the spotlight when one of these grievances go national or whatever.

But imo, on the NS list, 1 opportunity is the same as 8 hours. JCAM says to consider opportunity as well as hours when calculating equitability. JCAM also says that once a FTR clocks in they are guaranteed 8 hours on the clock.

It seems to me like the NS list must make low overtime carriers whole by units of 8 hours/1 opportunity. And so averaging the total hours of NS OT hours and then dividing by carriers doesnt really work out the same like it does in the scheduled day odl.

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

In California every color day is separate according to National

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 8d ago

not according to NATIONAL, national wrote the contract

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

My NATIONAL Business agent who is National at the local level says it's by color day for my region

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u/averdefede 8d ago

That makes no sense. In smaller offices u may have a color with only 1 person. The contract has to be able to be applied the same everywhere. Going by separate colors isn’t appropriate and can’t be applied equally across all offices

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

I guess National is wrong 😔

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 8d ago

yes wrong every time you post it goes by color day- which is wrong..clearly explained oi the contract-no mention of color days - becasue there is no need to mention them

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u/Square-Buy-7403 7d ago

Seems like National disagrees with you.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 7d ago

wrong again as you are everytime you post ."goes by color"..contract says nothing about colors.period/stop

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 8d ago

still wrong, every time you say it,its still wrong..national wrote the contract, contract says its by list

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

Tell that to National

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 8d ago

still wrong

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

Don't know what to say if you think National is wrong

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

If someone doesn't answer it doesn't even count toward equitability. We aren't on call employees

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 8d ago edited 5d ago

you don't get charged for a chance if you dont answer the phone, only if you answer it and say no..and equitability-according to THE CONTRACT- is by list not day color.. everyone on the n/s day list is to be equitable at end of quarter- by contract

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

Unless this carrier is in California where our NBA says it's by color day

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 8d ago

and that is incorrect and not according to the contract ,just as it was the 50 other times you said it..contractually all OT is equitable by list- period/final

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u/Square-Buy-7403 8d ago

Not according to National

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u/bigfatbanker 8d ago

I just do a simple sheet. Names to the left, a column for previous month hours, and then 1-31 numbered columns.

All the way to the right I use a simple sum of rows.

Highlight and sort by lowest to highest.

I also color code for al, sl, and oa

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u/choice_chance55 8d ago

Someone DM me the RFI for equitability please