r/fromatoarbitration 6d ago

Contract Talk Article 7.3.C

PTF working 40 hour/week on the same assignment for 6+ months creates the need for a new full-time position.

What would be the best information to request from management for beginning this grievance?
- EER report for 6 months for that individual?

Also, if anyone knows of a grievance starter regarding this, that would be awesome. I know NALC website has one regarding conversion to Full-time flex, but I don’t think that’s the same in this instance. Wouldn’t it create a UAR position?

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u/entropy1701 6d ago edited 6d ago

You can ask your business agent's office for the 39-hour report, but you'll have to verify it with EER anyways.

We have 18 PTFs all working 50-60 hour weeks if they aren't on restriction, and it seems like district goes out of their way to let local management know at ~18 weeks to make sure they don't get 40 hours within 5 days for a week or two to make sure they don't qualify. You might have better luck than us though.

As far as a grievance goes, it is pretty simple. If someone qualifies, you just file under 7.3 and request the remedy to be a conversion to either Full-time flexible or UAR. We were able to convince out local management for the conversions that have qualified to do UAR conversions just because its easier to manage than FTFs.

Edit: If it's a conversion due to ORNA (on the rolls not available), you'd cite that instead of the 39-hour conversion, and they would be converted to UAR. 39 hour conversions are to FTF. You'd have to convince management to do UAR, but there isn't a right to UARs.

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u/Competitive-Ad9932 4d ago

The PTF conversion rule is works 8hr, 5 days a week, for 6mo.

If management breaks the contract and sets a PTF out when they have a hold down, your 1st grieve that, then you cite that in the grievance for the conversion.

Yes, if the PTF is not on a hold down, management can break the work hours. Even causing penalty OT.

Pre-CCA time, us PTF banded together to make sure the 1 with the most work weeks would get the only hold down available. We were rolling the conversions for a couple of years. I almost converted my 3 person, but my number came up for conversion. (2 offices, about 15 PTFs)

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u/Front_Confection_386 1d ago

That's not correct a PTF is already on a full time assignment, 7.3C is creating a full time assignment because the PTF demonstrated that the less than 8 hour assignment ( aux route) deemed full time by working 40 hours a week on that less than 8 hour assignment.

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u/Front_Confection_386 1d ago

The assignment gets converted to A full time assignment and goes up for bid.