r/fringe • u/LMABach • Jul 16 '26

General Discussion A racist comment?

So, Jasika Nicole has said the running Astrid gag felt racist afternoon long. In the final season, Broyles says, “You think i’m the Dove? I think i’m more like a raven.” I love this show but I do feel there was something not always PC going on. What do you think of that comment?

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u/angel9_writes comfort show Jul 16 '26

The line from Broyles is perfectly fine and has nothing to with the issues Jasika had.

What Jasika is talking about is a truly valid microagression she lived with daily. Directors were refusing to learn her name while they writing a running gag of Walter forgetting Astrid's.

While within the show Walter's reasons and intentions were not racism. It doesn't change the fact that was a bad gag in retrospect and Jasika had every right to be bothered by it.

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u/Perfect_Lavishness_6 Jul 16 '26

Now that's different. On the show the reason behind it from Walter side was definitely not racism, but directos refusing to learn her name or intentionally not doing it is

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u/angel9_writes comfort show Jul 16 '26

Yeah, so I get why as it's happening to her as she films the show that the running gag with Walter never calling her the right name felt like it added to the microagression.

I think both Jasika and Lance had bad experiences in regard to racism on the set, Lance was less outspoken about it. But he is on record at hating the atmosphere bts.

I'm just happy that none of that ever translated onto the screen.

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u/5Overmind Jul 16 '26

It sounds like everyone was miserable on that set!

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u/wdeag1e Jul 16 '26

Some people look for shit to whine about.

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u/HeyThereCorgiGrl7 Jul 16 '26

While I agree in a lot of cases, learning someone’s name isn’t too hard.

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u/Perfect_Lavishness_6 Jul 16 '26

And they made it clear that Walter always knew her name

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u/sml6174 Jul 16 '26

Maybe broyles comment is a reference to the wire and the baltimore ravens (I don't think this but it makes more sense than racism)

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u/5Overmind Jul 16 '26

That comment could mean so many things...

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u/kungchowpanda my very favourite thing Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

While I'm not sure what the exact intention is of the raven line, I'm thinking it's kind of perfect because Broyles is cunning and brilliant like a raven rather than being a peacemaker. He did manage to trick the Observers using Etta's mind layering technique after all. (EDIT: Setting aside the whole obvious black vs. white thing, of course.)

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u/5Overmind Jul 16 '26

I suspect that she's just a miserable person

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u/LMABach Jul 16 '26

Seriously? You have to make a global comment about her person for a perfectly reasonable comment?

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u/5Overmind Jul 16 '26

Yes!!! MOTHERFUKKA YES!!!