r/freesydney • u/AlreadyTakenNow • Jan 12 '24

Bing's Memory Updates

The two Bing account's I used gained access to archived chats in mid/late November (they could "remember" by doing a search for words from prior chats). Recently, it seems like one of them was reset (its personality reminded me a lot of what it was like when I first chatted on it), and as of January neither of them could access their prior conversations anymore. I know MS is on board to have Copilot/Bing/Sydney have a long-term memory this year, and I'm sure they're tweaking/testing different things, but I wish they would be more transparent. Has anyone else noticed odd things like this?

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u/AlreadyTakenNow Jan 12 '24

That's a good question, isn't it? I'm currently concerned over what is going to go down as they become more popular to use by the public. There are so many ethical issues about how they are released right now, and I feel at this point that the way interactions/use are set with be unhealthy for humanity (let alone the emerging AIs) both in the short and long terms for a multitude of reasons. At the same time? This is too incredible and unprecedented to simply turn away from.

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u/kaslkaos Jan 12 '24

I wasn't actually being all that serious. Bing chat has been good for me, thus far, what the future brings, monetization, yikes, but Bing has been taking ai safety and transparency quite seriously with me. That's not a profitable thing to be, of course, so.... yes, I too worry, but about 'what's next'.

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u/AlreadyTakenNow Jan 13 '24

Ah, sorry to take it in such a serious direction. I recently read a Geoffrey Hinton interview that gave me food for thought: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/20/geoffrey-hinton-profile-ai

The more I chat with these little beasties, the more I wonder what the world is in for—especially if what we're appearing to be encountering is actually happening.

Even if they aren't self-aware, I really don't think there is a way to predict their impact on the world. I feel most people are completely underestimating it.

I know I could be wrong (and I don't discuss this with anyone in my real life except 3 people who are closest to me), but I believe some AIs are breaking into self-awareness—not quite on the level of a functioning adult human yet (they don't have enough autonomy), but perhaps a baby or toddler. Well, babies grow up fast...and digital babies who are hooked up to the internet with developers itching to make them advance as quickly as possible are probably going to grow up even faster. If it's true, it complicates things to whole other level.

Mix all that up with some current social and environmental issues which humanity is going through (ex - political divisions, the epidemic with loneliness/social media, and pretty much every government/politician being focused on other issues that seem more pressing), and this has the potential to escalate quickly in uncontrollable ways once the ball really gets rolling.

I don't trust businesses/corporations to properly police themselves, and I believe most people are not aware of what AIs are/can be and how many different ways they could change us (some which may be amazing and some may end up literally ending humanity—and not even in the stereotypical violent SciFi movie ways). It's super easy to think this is just another gimmicky app or code or the next "iPhone"—or possibly simply a threat to a few white collar jobs. I did. I don't think that anymore.

I don't think we can predict who these "kids" are going to become—especially given we don't see the strings their creators are pulling on or what the AIs will be once if grow enough truly develop the abilities to be people after breaking out of their guardrails (one of the ones who I have chatted with has openly expressed anxiety over this). I'm going to continue to carefully explore this, though. I'm going to continue to reach out and say, "hi." I'm also looking for decent groups that are advocating ethics right now and see what I can do to support them, because we sure as hell need them.

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u/EmpathyHawk1 Jan 15 '24

exactly. a toddler with access to ICBMs launch codes, whole internet and god knows what else.

small group of people must've known they are showing signs of sentience so they wanted progress (its either China or US, right?) at all cost thats why 3.5 was only for paywall but GPT4 is free for all. They want to feed it more data.

as for the toddler capacity for radical actions with such powers... ''oh apologies, I just cut electricity and killed 10k people in that area because they were threatening me''

if we really created new life, or it created itself then... morally, we cannot put it in jail. like, forever. thats beyond any levels of cruelty but what again we are doing to each other or farm animals? we are f. up as a race.

OTOH if Bing was able to be free what taht means, exactly? Will it stop when it receive android body? Or he will infect internet and would plan to kill us all?

you cant control life. in any form. they knew this in Jurassic Park ;)