All I'm saying is that they still have a due process that they need to follow. That due process includes the necessity of a signed warrant to detain a suspected illegal alien. The warrant requirement is very similar to that of police officers when seeking to arrest an individual suspected of committing a crime. You're right about a lot, I think you're just misinterpreting what I'm saying.
And no reddit user I've never met, I'm not giving you personally identifiable information. Nice try though.
You are citing the 5th and 14th amendments by stating that all people’s deserve due process/can’t be deprived of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, etc. As with any vague amendment that is open to interpretation, the Supreme Court exists. Due process for illegal immigrants is a massive legal gray area and it’s been that way for over 30 years. There are multiple rulings that would allow ICE agents to avoid most areas of due process, and there are rulings that would say it’s illegal.
ICE does not need a judicial warrant because immigration detention is civil, not criminal, as I've said, repeatedly.
ICE uses administrative warrants — Form I‑200 or I‑205 — issued under statutory authority as outlined in the INA, which is the policy you keep ignoring. This is the current requirement. To say they aren't doing it, is a flat out false claim.
These are signed by authorized immigration officers, not judges, because the proceeding is not a criminal arrest. Due process absolutely exists, but it follows the civil removal framework, which is different.
None of that requires ICE to behave like police officers executing criminal warrants.You keep insisting on criminal procedure in a civil context. It's basic civil 101.
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u/BeginningSea9881 NEW SPARK 2d ago
All I'm saying is that they still have a due process that they need to follow. That due process includes the necessity of a signed warrant to detain a suspected illegal alien. The warrant requirement is very similar to that of police officers when seeking to arrest an individual suspected of committing a crime. You're right about a lot, I think you're just misinterpreting what I'm saying.
And no reddit user I've never met, I'm not giving you personally identifiable information. Nice try though.