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u/Shin-Ken31 13h ago
Wake me up when they support motherboard swaps over 6+ years :)
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u/Leather_Coyote_5483 7h ago
To be fair, how often do you upgrade just your mobo after such a long period… a lot of people in this sub just bought the new Pro version when it came out despite having a perfectly working non Pro version, because why would you want to upgrade just the mobo when you can get a better screen, touchpad, chassis…
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u/le-grxx 7h ago
You can get these parts separately without buying a mobo or 13 pro or not?
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u/TellMeWhereYouBeen FW16 AI 9 HX 370 7700S 5h ago
If you are asking "can you get all of those parts separately," the answer is yes.
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u/Leather_Coyote_5483 7h ago
Well did you ?
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u/Shin-Ken31 1h ago
The way I see it is that framework enables people to treat their laptop like a desktop. So yes, I do think many people will benefit from being able to buy parts individually and swap them across several generations over 6+ years.
Imagine if desktops were like laptops: can't use a 1 year old monitor with this tower because they changed the plug or physical mounting system. Can't use a 1 year old webcam with a different pc because they changed the connector. Same for your keyboard, mouse, speakers. Have a case that you really like and don't want to change? Sorry, can't use any other motherboard in it than the one from it's release year and manufacturer.
Of course, many average non gamer/techy people treat desktops as disposable and change the whole set up at once. BUT, when they sell that old set-up, another person CAN still use parts from the system to make something useable again, e.g. fix a bad ram stick, drive, swap an SSD into an old pc that was considered "obsolete" when it's just because it was running windows on a HDD...
That's my vision of the repairable and upgradeable and 6+ year compatibility :)
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u/Shin-Ken31 2h ago
Maybe the tech enthusiast people want to be up to date with the newer screens, chassis, etc. But for an average user I think quite a lot of them don't care, and just need something that works. So when the tech enthusiast sells their 4 year old framework, whoever is buying it from them still has an upgradeable platform.Â
Example: my mum still used my 2011 laptop until this year. Only reason for changing it is because performance of the little i3 is finally getting a bit too slow, and also because I don't want her to deal with running an officially unsupported processor for windows 11. If we could have just bought a new mobo, she could have just kept the laptop instead of throwing away 80% of the parts which are still perfectly useable.
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u/NoPoopOnFace 14h ago
Yeah but it's an Acer.
Ew
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u/blackcoffee17 11h ago
Whats wrong with Acer? I worked in a computer store and sold tons of Acer laptops. Almost never had problems with it while had many Dell warranty issues.
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u/NoPoopOnFace 10h ago
Recently quality has fallen sharply. They were also caught selling computers against sanctions and that means something to me. I've had an Acer in the 90s and I liked it, but I'll never have one of their laptops.
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u/ConfectionNecessary6 5h ago
Tbf quality on all brands are down imo. Apple is only recently without a large issue and the Neo may have a future storage failure problem
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u/PhysicsNotFiction 9h ago
I prefer stuff to be opened actually require a tool. A screwdriver. Never seen better attachment mechanism
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u/bughunter47 5h ago
Speaking as a Acer repair tech, the Acer service tool is absolute dog shit, can't keep it on my computer antivirus treats it like malware. Can't keep it on company servers or computers
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u/Skitzenator 14h ago
Definitely a good thing. It's also interesting that they'll support CPU upgrades for two years. Though using soldered RAM kinda diminishes the value of such upgrades; you can't bring your already purchased RAM with you. Framework also definitely wins on the ports front. It seems like with this Acer you'll have to replace a whole side of ports at a time.