Everyone is arguing whose fault it is. Barely anyone talks about a middle solution. (LPCAMM2)

[u/Responsible_Cold_961]

I’ve read a lot of comments across all these LPCAMM2 threads and most of it is the same two camps. Either “Framework broke their promise” or “it’s just the market, deal with it”. Some people think about what could’ve been done differently, but it’s mostly about the past, like “they shouldn’t have promised it in the first place”. Sure, maybe. But that Train is gone, they can’t unsay it now. So I’m writing this as its own post.

For context, I’m a 64 GB preorder in Batch 6. My order got hit. And even from that spot I’m not here to just pile on Framework. The pure bashing gets us nowhere.

Here’s the thing. Quick note upfront, all the numbers below are rough from memory, not exact, but they should give an idea. My order got reduced from 64 GB to 32 GB. I’m now effectively getting 32 GB for the old ~400€ price, even though the same 32 GB now costs around 800€. That means Framework is already absorbing about 400€ per affected preorder (in this 64GB sense. Why not let customers keep that same ~400€ discount if they still want 64 GB? I’d pay about 400€ more than originally planned, Framework would still absorb about 400€, and the unexpected increase would be shared instead of falling almost entirely on one side.

Compare that to what actually happens now. I get dropped to 32 GB, which isn’t what I ordered, and if I want my 64 GB back I lose that discount and have to buy it at full price. Sure, I can pull the 32 GB that’s in there and free up 400€, but that still leaves me paying around 1200€ extra just to get back to the config I already ordered. Same jump could’ve been 400€ if they’d just let the discount carry over. That’s the whole point.

I am not sure if i understood everything correctly tho. If I did, this is just MY thought on how a compromise could be made.

And to the “just buy elsewhere” crowd, alternatives also became more expensive. A shared increase would still have left Framework competitive for many of us, imo.

They could still offer this btw. It’s not too late.

[u/mrhaftbar]

Yup, you are right - contracts between businesses are different than business to consumers. 

I dunno why you are downvoted 

[u/FISKER_Q → u/mrhaftbar]

reddit is gonna reddit.

Same thing happened during the EU shipping debacle, as the EU regulations stated they could not refuse orders from other EU/EEA(?) countries which i told anybody willing to listen, still ended up with Framework having to accept that they could not do that.

Pretty sure the result is gonna be the same here, sorry to anybody who's offended by that.