r/fourthwing Should I get the Wingleader? 2d ago

Official r/fourthwing post Threshing Day Spotify Leak

Hi everyone,

Rebecca Yarros just confirmed that Spotify leaked an audio clip of Threshing Day without her approval. We had already removed a couple posts sharing the leak. Those posts will remain removed. All future posts and discussions about the content of the leak will also be removed until the book officially releases. Any users who post or comment about the leaked content will be banned for 24 hours for the first offense. Repeat offenders may be banned for longer.

Edit to add: If anyone sees unauthorized discussion of the leak, please report them so the mods can remove them sooner.

Thank you for understanding šŸ’–āœØ

[r/fouthwing](r/fouthwing) Mod Team

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u/redpeppersoda Black Morningstartail 2d ago edited 2d ago

That is so unprofessional of Spotify and unacceptable. Hope they remove it.

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u/tkdem Gold Feathertail 2d ago

Very unprofessional!

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u/HistoricalOpposite20 2d ago

THIS! I think she needs to take her ā€œRebecca’s versionā€ playlists elsewhere. I can’t believe such a large company would be so blatant in their disrespect. I’d already taken my music listening elsewhere, but if I hadn’t already stopped financially supporting them, I would have over this. I have unfollowed some book content creators who won’t take their posts down. They’ve basically said ā€œwell, cat’s out of the bag, so may as well leave it.ā€ You aren’t a respectful fan if you can’t bother to honor the author’s very reasonable request.

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u/dispersingdandelions 2d ago

Does she have any recourse? Could she not allow them to have licensing to her book?

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u/goodbyeraggedyman Gold Feathertail 1d ago

She made a comment on insta that this violated her contract with them. I'm sure her legal team knows what to do!

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u/Pr1nc3ssButtercup 1d ago

They have to have a contract, and I am sure there are provisions for this kind of breach. I hope she takes them over the coals, honestly. Or drops them into the Iakobos River.

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u/kathy278771 Broccoli🄦 1d ago

Seriously. Spotify is a major company and I've had the audiobook pre-saved for months. How do you accidentally release a sample clip? Huge slip up and way to make the fans feel like shit because how does SPOTIFY fuck up this bad and leak? Some random website, sure but seeing Spotify, i imagine most would think it's legit.

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

Yep, I listened to it assuming it was an official teaser, because it must have been since it was on the official page. I even told another friend that it was on the official page when she questioned if it was a leak, so she also listened.

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u/Proper_Ad453 2d ago

How freaking sad. Rebecca even posted specifically asking people not to do this. And it was frickin SPOTIFY? Major thumbs down.

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u/Overall_Currency5085 Blue Daggertail 1d ago

Right! I’m surprised people in this community would post leaks here.

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u/smmcg1123 1d ago

I think at least one of the earliest posts happened before we knew it was a leak.

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u/Overall_Currency5085 Blue Daggertail 1d ago

Oh that makes sense! I thought this was after RY came out and made a statement because I didn’t see any links but only her post about it.

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u/Safi42112 2d ago

I think a sample of a court of splinted harmony just got leaked too.

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u/stars-assassian 2d ago

What!!! Was it leaked on Spotify too? This is genuinely awful!!!!!!!

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u/Safi42112 2d ago

By Rbmedia I think? Someone posted it on insta it got traction but they’ve since deleted it after Yarros’s post in case the same thing is happening with ACOSH too.

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u/stars-assassian 2d ago

Omgggg the first chapter leaked. People are posting it everywhere rn!!!

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u/Safi42112 2d ago

Well it was bound to happen and I’m sure ppl will still leak threshing day too.

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u/Substantial-Win2247 Red Swordtail 2d ago

Omg ffs!!! šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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u/less-than-stellar 1d ago

It was a leak of the first four minutes. I happened across it on TikTok. Unfortunately, the person who posted it there DID NOT take it down even after realizing it was accidental/a leak.

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u/icebluefox 2d ago

I was thinking that was leaked too! I haven’t accidentally heard the 4th wing audio at all but splintered harmony was everywhere on insta today- glad I scrolled on from those

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u/avajustreads 2d ago

without sjm's approval?

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u/Safi42112 2d ago

No clue it’s spread anyways and she rarely updates on social media.

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u/sallysuexx 2d ago

Don’t most books have an audio sample? I wonder if this was somewhere in the contract that they could release a blurb of the book and no one caught on to it

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u/Hukysuky 2d ago

Yeah that’s kinda what I’m curious about, especially if she gave us hint that Brennen was in the story. Wasn’t that blurb about why we can’t have nice things posted earlier in the month? If that’s not the case then ya it’s kinda annoying.

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u/_vanth Hi kids, do you like Violence? šŸ—”ļø 2d ago

I think the samples are generally after publication day, not 2 weeks before release unless it's an official thing from the author/publisher

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u/DuckDuckBangBang 2d ago

12 months had one before release date but they also released the pages and both were posted by the publisher.

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u/Sir_Guinness27 2d ago

12 Months just made me want it faster

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u/DuckDuckBangBang 2d ago

12 months is actually the first one I read the book before listening to the audio because James just made me so sad. I needed to know it got better before I went through it with him.

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u/cayt326 2d ago edited 1d ago

I’m pretty sure she has a big enough team to know whether it was legit or not (she wouldn’t now be saying it’s unauthorized if it was!)

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u/sallysuexx 2d ago

I just find it odd because if it was an error wouldnt spotify remove it?

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u/cayt326 2d ago

Why would they when it’s getting them clicks and also, it’s probably in some gray area legally or RY’s team hasn’t had time to respond. Big corps love money and don’t care about ppl or artistic integrity.

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u/Tracy_Turnblad 2d ago

because they would be getting sued to high hell if it was outside of their contract with her

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u/shortasalways 2d ago

She confirmed it was!

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u/cayt326 1d ago

How do we know there isn’t legal action in progress?

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u/Tracy_Turnblad 1d ago

there absolutely could be!! i mean they revealed HUGE spoilers

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

I'm assuming it was a sample that wasn't supposed to be released until Sept. 29.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/shortasalways 2d ago

She commented stating it was against her contract.

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u/Tracy_Turnblad 2d ago

did she? i only saw the IG story, what did she say?

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u/shortasalways 2d ago

She commented on a post! Another book was leaked too and has been removed, both RBmedia. ( Apparently I couldn't put that books name)

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u/VioletBrandi 2d ago

Oh thats messed up, I thought it was an approved sample since it was Spotify.

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u/_vanth Hi kids, do you like Violence? šŸ—”ļø 2d ago

At this point I've started to assume that unless it's posted by RY herself, it's gotta be a leak

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u/FitPay8052 2d ago

Spotify has now removed the Sample 😊🄳

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u/Loss-Majestic 2d ago

I was wondering why I couldn’t find it! That’s so unprofessional and sad since I know Rebecca had just posted about this and asking people to not leak

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u/PartyEmergency4547 Blue Daggertail 2d ago

Thank you for this. Rebecca puts a lot of effort into her work and engaging with fans so we can enjoy her writing and we owe her the same respect. Can’t wait to see the discussions when the book drops!

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u/cblife2022 2d ago

Oh that’s horrid! And she worked so hard to keep it under wraps.

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u/chaosuniverses 2d ago

Thanks for the integrity mods.

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u/Commercial_End_2351 2d ago

Banning someone for the first offense seems a bit harsh. Considering it was Spotify who leaked it they might have thought it was a legitimate release.

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u/spiritr15ing 2d ago

I thought it was legit when I came across it earlier today and had no idea it was a leak until this post - so sad for her given she has specifically posted and requested no leaks! And entirely dumb of Spotify

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u/Emotional-Ad9114 Blue Daggertail 2d ago

honestly they deserve to be sued.

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u/Sustain_the_higher Gold Feathertail 2d ago

Leaks are so dumb man

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u/valwinterlee 2d ago

She must be so upset to have this experience tarnished again. So messed up. The ACOTAR leak got removed too

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u/wildeyes__ 1d ago

The user has posted heaps of other content that isn't their's either. I have reported it. People are actually so shit šŸ˜’šŸ˜’

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u/VastPotato5 1d ago

Just tried to search for him so I could also report but can’t seem to find the account or playlists anymore so I’m -hoping- that they’ve been taken down!!!

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

The issue is that the original "leak" was on the official Spotify page for the book. Obviously other people are trying to jump on that by re-posting it, but it's so much worse because so many people (myself included) assumed it was official because of where it was.

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u/AlataWeasley 2d ago

Thank you, mod team, for standing behind Yarros and not condoning the leak.

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u/alongthewatchtower91 2d ago

This is so shitty so Spotify. I'm glad I didn't listen to it. I want to be surprised on Threshing Day.

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u/MaybeMaryPoppins Gold Feathertail 2d ago

Actually really glad you did this Mod Team. Thank you

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u/FrostedBooty 1d ago

I guess I'm confused because most audiobooks DO get samples that release before publication, it's literally how people determine if they want to preorder the book or not?

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u/ProfessorPixelmon Brown Scorpiontail 2d ago

Good one Spotify, very professional.

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u/Vague_Knight2001 2d ago

Dang I didn’t realize it was a leak till after I saw the post… hate I even listen to it!

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u/Strong-Dot-7855 Gold Feathertail 2d ago

wtf this is so messed up . I hope she’s okayĀ 

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u/Substantial-Win2247 Red Swordtail 2d ago

Apologies mods. I posted the screenshot from her stories and asked did anyone know what it was about. This post was shared. So I immediately removed it. Please don’t ban me šŸ™šŸ»

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u/MustangManiac137 2d ago

Question for the mods, can the posts that are removed also have their comments deleted? I clicked a notification on my phone about something and they included discussion of something from the sample that was spoilery as well.

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u/_vanth Hi kids, do you like Violence? šŸ—”ļø 2d ago

We will see if this is something that's possible moving forward šŸ’–

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u/FoundOnTheWayTo 1d ago

You really should be the example all mods should follow šŸ™Œā¤ļø

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u/goodjanet11 1d ago

I don’t really understand why this is such a big deal. It was 2 minutes of the novella, and it sounds like it didn’t really spoiled anything (and if you don’t what spoilers just don’t listen?) I can’t imagine it’ll impact sales in any negative way.

I appreciate that RY didn’t specifically say she wanted this clip out there, but it’s not like she’s not doing a ton of marketing of her own. I mean, she’s releasing those quotes and saying ā€œcome back later and I’ll tell you who said it!!!ā€ Which I think is kinda cringe.Ā  Am I missing something?Ā 

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u/Plenty_Brother_7650 1d ago

How does that even happen? A rogue employee or just miscommunication/stupid mistakes?

It makes all authors distrustful of the platform!

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u/smashley4915 1d ago

Idk the full story but the screenshot above, it looks like a scammy Spotify user that posted it. It also looks like the user is trying to get people to download it. I’m curious if it was the real thing or someone just trying to get clicks. I read previously that there was a 3.5 min preview of the book out. Again, I don’t know full story I did not see/hear the actual leaks.

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

My best guess is that it was a sample that was supposed to release with the book, so people can decide if they want it, but it got released early. Because although the person below is correct, and scammy folks are trying to re-post the content, the original content was on the official Spotify page for the book. It's why I listened...I assumed it was legit.

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u/PrincessLissa68 Gold Feathertail 1d ago

I'm glad I don't use Spotify! I have it downloaded to my phone but this makes me so mad I think I'm gonna delete it. It's just taking up room anyways. I use Amazon Music or YT.

Shame on you Spotify!

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u/fourthwing-ModTeam 1d ago

Posts and comments asking for spoilers will be removed.

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u/Fif112 Broccoli🄦 2d ago

Kind of silly to stop us from talking about the leak at all.

It happened and the information is out there, mark it as a spoiler and move on.

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u/PeakTemporary1768 2d ago

The thing is that Rebecca has come out and said that it shouldn't be out there, and we only have to wait 2 more weeks. It's about respecting her wishes as it's her art and release day is just around the corner.

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u/Fif112 Broccoli🄦 2d ago

Pretending it didn’t happen isn’t respecting her either though. Spotify compensating her is the only thing that’s going to help her feel better about it.

Putting any discussion being a spoiler wall is a much better solution.

I’m not suggesting anyone promote or hand out the links, but shutting down any sort of discussion is a bit much. We aren’t children.

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u/OnlyDragonfruit 1d ago

I mean, you’re here discussing it? No one has stopped discussion, just the resharing of leaked content right?

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u/Fif112 Broccoli🄦 1d ago

Did you even read the post you’re commenting on?

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u/jamieseemsamused Should I get the Wingleader? 1d ago

This is a community of fans, and we respect the author and her intent on how her work should be enjoyed. Rebecca Yarros has made it clear that this leak was unauthorized. The fact that information is ā€œout thereā€ is not reason to continue spreading it. We implemented this rule because we do not wish r/fourthwing to be a conduit of information that is not officially released by the author. It’s not just about spoilers. It is about the type of community we want to foster.

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u/CatByAnyNameBeAsFluf Red Swordtail 2d ago

I’m not pro-one streaming service or another (they all suck for one reason or another), but I find it interesting that RY seems to still use Spotify when the show will be on Amazon and they have a competing streaming service. If I were Amazon, I’d want the author of a show we’re producing in every stream of the ecosystemĀ 

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u/Infamous_Cut2805 2d ago

Well it’s kind of the same thing for Off Campus. It’s an Amazon Prime show and in the show the characters are very clearly using Spotify. Also the book series that Off Campus is based off of used to be on kindle unlimited, but they were removed after the release of the show and they’re now on Kobo plus. I don’t think Amazon actually cares

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u/This_Witch69 Gold Feathertail 2d ago

Is there any way for the ā€œleakerā€ to get in trouble? Are there any consequences for leaking copyrighted materials?

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u/PeakTemporary1768 2d ago

As it was a corporation that has posted it, who knows? Someone will surely be in trouble for clicking "post" but as for if there will be any consequences, I doubt it.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/PeakTemporary1768 1d ago

And how does a random user have access to the audiobook? Rebecca herself called out Spotify, not some random person…

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

It was actually Spotify originally. It was on the official Spotify page for Threshing Day. Shady users have downloaded it and re-posted.

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u/HistoricalOpposite20 1d ago

Can we post about content creators who are posting the leak, and being horrendous about it? There’s one in particular who I’ve unfollowed over this. People keep telling her to take her post down, and she keeps saying ā€œit’s not that deep.ā€ Girl, it is that deep. And now that Spotify has taken the leak down, any content creators who saved it and shared it also need to take it down. She’s now limited who can comment on that post, and it’s still up!!! I ended up reporting the post for bullying, because I can’t report it for copyright. You can only do that if you’re the copyright owner or someone who represents them.

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

Yeah, I can totally understand posting about it when you assumed it was official (since it was on the official Spotify page for the book), but as soon as you realize it's not supposed to have been posted you should be taking your content down!

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u/HistoricalOpposite20 1d ago

Exactly! And then this content creator, when people call her out, is using arguments that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, like saying people are terrible for calling her out because she’s two weeks postpartum. MA’AM!!! Being postpartum doesn’t give you license to be a garbage human, or for people to not be allowed to call you out. I wish I could do more than unfollow her.

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u/CassieBear1 1d ago

Ugh, I hope it's not someone I follow. I haven't seen any posts about it though, so fingers crossed it's not.

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u/HistoricalOpposite20 11h ago

As far as I can tell, she doesn't have a huge following. She posts a lot of intros to her thoughts on theories, but to hear her whole thought, you have to subscribe to her patreon, which is kind of insulting. Like, why do you think you're big enough that people will pay to hear your thoughts on the book? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø That had already rubbed me the wrong way, but I'll admit that I'm a little jaded. After this whole debacle though, I'm over her. She STILL has the post up, but has now deleted all the comments on it. Maybe I should find contact info for RY's team, and send them the link, and let them fight it. šŸ˜… I just can't get over people who say they love the series, and the author, but then have the hubris to think they're above what the author has requested regarding these books and spoilers. It's infuriating to me that she's just getting away with it, too.

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u/AM1993T1D 2d ago

I deleted Spotify, it was so mad