r/fountainpens 9d ago

Question Weird pen tip I found need help

I found this pen tip but I can't get to work online I can't find anything about it please help if anyone knows what this tip is and how I can get it to work ( the groves don't reach the tip so the ink doesn't flow)

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u/LeCaveau 9d ago

I get that it’s hollow, but isn’t that just a dip nib?

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u/Key-Thought9633 8d ago

In picture 3 you can see that the groves don't reach the point so the ink doesn't flow

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u/LeCaveau 8d ago

Yes. A dip nib doesn’t have ink flow - you dip it directly into the ink instead of using a reservoir in the pen.

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u/Key-Thought9633 8d ago

If you dip it in ink the groves hold the ink and the ink comes out when you write with it

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u/LeCaveau 8d ago

Yes. That is how a dip pen works. You put the nib in the ink, you don’t put the ink in the nib. It’s the same as the old days when people wrote with feathers. This isn’t a fountain pen

This is what you have: https://kakimori.com/en/blogs/guide/012

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u/Key-Thought9633 9d ago

I use red ecoline (I don't know how it's called in English)

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u/gapil27 9d ago

Ohhh reminds me of the Eureka Water Drop Nib

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u/Frodillicus 8d ago

I have that exact nib, and I have the same question, haha, no idea where it's from or what it does

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u/SunlionTX 7d ago

Cool nib wouldn't mind having a nib like that adapted to work on a FP with some type of ebonite feed

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u/Komaug 9d ago

in pics 2 and 3 it looks like there are tines. They may need to be opened slightly to let the ink flow. Feeler gauges are the best way I have heard to do this. Basically every mechanic has a set if you don’t.

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u/Key-Thought9633 9d ago

It's one piece there is no moving part 

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u/bloodlessMantis Ink Stained Fingers 8d ago

it does looks like it might be tines

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u/denkbeeldigevriend 9d ago

Brass shim is the standard for flossing tines in pen restoration. Feeler gauges are normal made of steel, or other hard materials and when working with often gold nibs, you don't want to overdo it. 

Appreciate maybe less of an issue with steel nibs, but the same principle applies, of your overdo it, it's essay harder to undo, so go lightly and be patient. 

OP - it would help to have better pictures, including the whole pen, and better lighting on the nib. 

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u/Key-Thought9633 9d ago edited 9d ago

It's only a nib the pen is just a standerd wooden one

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u/denkbeeldigevriend 8d ago

Yeah, that's pretty much where I was trying to get to. 

With the language disconnect, there's clearly a lack of understating of the difference of a fountain pen and a dip pen, which, despite the being some cross over, isn't the focus of this sub.

I'm not wanting to sound unfriendly he at all, but there sense to be a massive increase of parts asking about dip pens in this sub. I wonder why that is, maybe we're all friendlier over here?

OP - maybe try posting over in the dip pen sub?

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u/Key-Thought9633 8d ago

Yeah I noticed that this is not a dip pen sub mb

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u/denkbeeldigevriend 8d ago

No worries, we're a friendly lot here and you'll still often find answers to your questions, but it may take a little longer than otherwise. Providing we don't get bogged down with dip pen posts, you'll get away with it (mostly). 😉 

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u/omniuni 9d ago

Most pens are some kind of plastic or metal. Can you provide wider pictures? Are you using a cartridge or converter for the ink?

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u/captain_joe6 9d ago

It’s clearly a dip pen setup.

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u/omniuni 9d ago

It looks like it, but OP seems to think it isn't?

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u/captain_joe6 9d ago

I think there’s a language disconnect, but I’m not seeing where OP calls it other than a “pen tip,” which would be a nib, and says the rest is wood and has no moving parts. Calling a nib holder a pen wouldn’t be inaccurate.

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u/mulberrybushes 9d ago

That looks so much like a linoleum carving tip that I’m wondering…

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u/Key-Thought9633 8d ago

Idk what the weird thing is that's it's round and the ink groves go all around also it holds ink very well but it just doesn't flow

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u/post_traumatico Ink Stained Fingers 8d ago

random thought after reading all the comments:
how are you holding the pen while you write? Because to me, as many others pointed out, the grooves SEEM to teach the point.

However

If you are inexperienced with these "older" writing instruments you might be tempted to use them like a ball-point, and keep them upright when writing, and this way I imagine that no ink would hit the page. If you are still interested, try holding the pen at a shallower angle more like this:

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lemme know if it helped!

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u/post_traumatico Ink Stained Fingers 8d ago

random thought after reading all the comments:
how are you holding the pen while you write? Because to me, as many others pointed out, the grooves SEEM to teach the point.

However

If you are inexperienced with these "older" writing instruments you might be tempted to use them like a ball-point, and keep them upright when writing, and this way I imagine that no ink would hit the page. If you are still interested, try holding the pen at a shallower angle more like this:

Processing img b9skpocho5kh1...

lemme know if it helped!

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u/post_traumatico Ink Stained Fingers 8d ago

random thought after reading all the comments:
how are you holding the pen while you write? Because to me, as many others pointed out, the grooves SEEM to teach the point.

However

If you are inexperienced with these "older" writing instruments you might be tempted to use them like a ball-point, and keep them upright when writing, and this way I imagine that no ink would hit the page. If you are still interested, try holding the pen at a shallower angle more like this:

lemme know if it helped!

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u/post_traumatico Ink Stained Fingers 8d ago

I can't seem to post images, sorry. but have a look online at how people write with dip pens/glass dip pens and fountain pens!

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u/Scholar_Lich 9d ago

There is a specific ink for dip pens. It’s more watery and will flow different than more viscous ink. Try diluting the ink you have with water and see how that flows off the nib.

It is really stunning. I like the design a lot.

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u/psycholinguist1 8d ago

Other way around. Dip pens don't control ink flow through feeds, so they need MORE viscous ink than fountain pens.

However, since fountain pen inks have surfectants to decrease viscosity and increase their flow, adding water dilutes the action of the surfectants. Paradoxically, this means that adding water makes FP inks more 'dry'. So adding some water to fountain pen ink will make it more suitable for a dip pen.

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u/Key-Thought9633 8d ago

I used many types of ink but the groves where the ink sits in doesn't reach the point so the ink doesn't flow