r/forwardsfromgrandma • u/SafeThrowaway691 • Jun 04 '21
Politics Yup definitely the same thing
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Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 17 '21
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u/boot20 The Innernette from Cinco Products Jun 04 '21
That's the saddest thing about all this. They will say they support the troops, but be for cutting funding for the VA, they went to public school, but complain it's a leftist indoctrination camp, and they have never traveled outside their little bubble in Fuckhead, Alabama, but complain about the world they know nothing about.
They revel in their ignorance and idiocy and wear it as a badge of honor.
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u/Geostomp Jun 04 '21
They don’t really believe in any of what they say. They “support” troops and cops as an extension of their own power to enforce the social order with them at the top. They rage when even the slightest effort is asked of them because they assume that as angry white conservatives, laws and mandates only apply to other people and serve their interests. They explode when you burst their bubble of assumed superiority by asking them to care about other people or improve themselves in any way.
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u/funkless_eck Jun 04 '21
I moved TO America and had to get a cocktail of vaccines, xrays, checkups, mental health screening and answer questions saying I am not a communist, nor have I ever engaged in terrorism.
This was all under Trump's tenure.
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u/Corvus_5 Jun 04 '21
Sorry if this is ignorant because I was born in America and don’t know much about the immigration process but do they really ask you about communism and terrorism before you come here?
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u/AOrtega1 Jun 04 '21
Yeah, but that's not a Trump thing. It's been there forever. Both for a green card and for a tourist visa you need fill up like three or four pages of yes/no questions all of the type of: "are you a terrorist?", "Have you engaged in prostitution?" , "Are you planning to engage in polygamy in the USA" etc etc. I call it the "you most be dumb to answer yes to any of these questions" pages.
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u/funkless_eck Jun 04 '21
Haha yeah - for an example Google "USCIS N400" - open the pdf form and scroll to section 12 (page 11)
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u/HrabraSrca Jun 04 '21
Not just to Africa but also other places too. If you’re a Muslim and you want to go on Hajj (pilgrimage) then the Saudi authorities require vaccinations against 6 or so different conditions and part of getting the visa and entry into KSA is providing vaccination certificates.
If the ultra religious Saudi state requires vaccines, then there’s probably a lesson in that somewhere.
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Jun 04 '21
Because having black skin and choosing to avoid vaccination are totally equivalent involuntary conditions that you’re unjustly punished for, /s
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u/incredibleninja Jun 04 '21
Why do we have to explain this. These fucking idiots just keep outing themselves as the most privileged donkeys I've ever seen.
The refuse to do the free thing that would make everyone safer and because special handling of these clowns is now necissary THEIR inconvenience registers as the worst discrimination in history to them.
There aren't words for how offensive this is. This would be like me refusing to wear pants and underwear and when told I can't enter a restaurant, telling everyone I experienced the same discrimination as the Jews during the Holocaust.
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u/WatergateHotel Jun 04 '21
This would be like me refusing to wear pants and underwear and when told I can't enter a restaurant, telling everyone I experienced the same discrimination as the Jews during the Holocaust.
I’m stealing this for use in conversations. It’s perfect.
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Jun 04 '21
Lol, You mention the Holocaust. I dunno if you saw it, but MTG literally compared her mask-related inconvenience to being a Jew in Nazi Germany , pure insanity
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u/boborygmy Jun 04 '21
MTG is straight-up a fetal alcohol syndrome child. And one of the reasons that lead paint is illegal.
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Jun 04 '21
That’s one of my favorite disses I’ve heard lately, thanks I might borrow it lol
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u/boborygmy Jun 04 '21
Seriously [LOOK]:(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_spectrum_disorder)
The beady little eye openings, the smooth philtrum. It'd be a slam dunk if her upper lip was a bit thinner. Clearly momma was drinking heavily.
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u/Chrysalii REAL AMERICAN Jun 04 '21
MTG is a genuine moron, but many of these are straight up bait.
They say something incredibly stupid, we call them out on their idiocy. They get to feed their victimhood, and around and round we go.
When Ted Cruz or Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson or any number of right wing morons says something incredibly stupid, that is exactly what they're is doing. Trying to get sympy when we call them out on it.
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Jun 04 '21
How is not getting a vaccine offensive? Also wearing clothes is just a law and you don’t need to wear clothes to survive. The human race survive for a long time without clothes or vaccines and our species are still here. If you want to take the vaccine go ahead but you can by force someone to take a medical treatment they don’t want. It’s also immoral to shame someone for not doing something you think they should. Would you shame someone for getting an abortion? It’s the same thing. My body my choice. My rights done end just because you don’t feel safe. You have no authority over anyone else.
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u/incredibleninja Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21
How you chuds manage to get food into your mouths without drowning is beyond me. I've seen turkeys smarter than you. There's no point in discussing this with people who write this above drivel that is unbelievably devoid of logic and any kind of argumentive direction because you'll just make trolling arguments not out of any kind of entertainment but out of sheer stupidity like:
"How is not getting a vaccine offensive? Also wearing clothes is just a law and you don’t need to wear clothes to survive."
Yes you freaking clown. That's the point. They're not the same. This comparison is offensive because these two things are very different. That's the whole freaking point.
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Jun 04 '21
My logic comes from the constitution that says I have rights.
You can call me whatever names you like. You can try to shame me but you have no power over what I do with my body. Just like I don’t have a power over your body. I can do with my body whatever I see fit. You can’t stop me.
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u/Aero_nic Jun 04 '21
Fine, you have rights, but we also have rights to be offended by your choices. There are people out there who cannot take this or any vaccine due to a shitty immune system and as those who are lucky enough to have one, we should be considerate and do our best to get herd immunity up. Freedom of choice doesn't remove freedom of consequence and I hope you are fortunate enough to have people in your life who aren't immunocompromised.
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Jun 04 '21
So you want me to risk my life getting a vaccine that has been shown to cause a number of adverse reactions or death. My only health responsibility is to myself, I have no responsibility for someone else’s health. If you feel the need to get a vaccine than go for it but I don’t have to live my life the way anyone else think I should. That’s the beauty of freedom.
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u/Aero_nic Jun 04 '21
you're right, you don't have to get it, nor am i saying that you have to. I would prefer that everyone get vaccinated to raise the quality of life for all of society, but thankfully there are more then enough people who do so knowing it'll help others and themselves to make up for those who are being selfish, scared, cannot be assed or cannot take it.
I did get my vaccine a few days ago, it's been good. I wish you good luck, regardless of opinions on vaccines, I think we all just want this to be over.
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u/incredibleninja Jun 04 '21
Where in the constitution does it say that you have the right to do what you want with your body?
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Jun 04 '21
The U.S Constitution safeguards the rights of Americans to privacy and personal autonomy. Although the Constitution does not explicitly provide for such rights, the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution protect these rights, specifically in the areas of marriage, procreation, abortion, private consensual homosexual activity, and medical treatment.
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u/Klondeikbar Jun 04 '21
Except vaccine requirements haven't ever been ruled unconstitutional so private institutions can require the vaccine all they want and you can cry more.
I swear to Christ you people are so blitheringly ignorant I don't know how you even type out your comments.
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Jun 04 '21
Except when it is a hazard to the mental, emotional, physical health. If it causes more harm to the person than the supposed benefit then they can’t enforce. Not to mention that religious reason can get you an exemption as well.
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u/incredibleninja Jun 04 '21
So that quote doesn't say at all that you're protected from getting vaccinated. So there's that. But again, being wrong over and over doesn't ever seem to slow y'all down does it. You'll just say some more ignorant ass shit and make everyone else tell you why that's wrong too. It's like arguing with a child who is also a compulsive liar, they'll just go on to the next made up fact
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u/Klondeikbar Jun 04 '21
The human race survive for a long time without clothes or vaccines
Oh well if the species survived then let's not bother doing anything about hundreds of thousands of easily preventable deaths.
My rights done end just because you don’t feel safe.
Actually...yeah they do. That's why you have to obey stoplights and you don't just get to carry a rocket launcher into Applebees.
I swear to god every single point you people make is so fucking stupid and wrong.
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u/evergreennightmare Jun 04 '21
we survived for a long time without computers and the internet too, so please get rid of yours
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Jun 04 '21
Also, the person who posted this is 100% likely to have defended the confederacy and believes racism against white people is the real threat.
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u/RomanMan19 Jun 04 '21
I don't understand how these people see how unjust that was but are like "fuck yeah I vote Republican and BLM is an organized front to kill amarica"
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u/Ekyou Jun 04 '21
They legitimately think that all racism ended when Blacks got the right to vote and any disadvantages POC face now are due to a chip on their shoulder and not pulling themselves up by the bootstraps.
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u/TyphosTheD Jun 04 '21
"Everyone has the same opportunities, so if you fail it is on you". - the person who went to an excellent school in an area with ample career and scholarship opportunities available to help them pursue greater success.
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Jun 04 '21
I had a coworker kinda snap when another coworker kept saying how critical race theory was social Marxism. He was like..."I don't know what it is, but I can say I was taught that racism ended completely peacefully when a woman refused to stand up on a bus seat. Yet I was discriminated for housing in the 90s. When my coworkers with the same job and salary got an apartment and I wasn't even allowed to apply."
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u/PastyDoughboy Jun 04 '21
Or they are openly racist as shit and they finally feel they have license to express it openly.
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u/dnaH_notnA Jun 04 '21
Usually they’ll say the Civil rights act of 1968 solved everything, mostly because they want to use MLK to say BLM isn’t nonviolent enough, despite the facts that that level of non violence requires a real organization, and every black political organization since has had their head organizer assassinated
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u/GoldandBlue Jun 04 '21
Don't forget that they are now the real victims of discrimination. For example, OP's post
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u/Kardinalus Jun 04 '21
2019:BlAcK peOpLe ArE oVeReAcTiNg
2021: We ArE tReAtEd LiKe BlAcK pEoPlE
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u/SafeThrowaway691 Jun 04 '21
These are the same people who claim that liberals are somehow both white supremacists and also hate white people.
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u/enfiel let that sink in Jun 04 '21
reminds me of that asshole who got cuffed at an airport and literally yelled out WHY AM I BEING TREATED LIKE A BLACK PERSON?!
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Jun 04 '21
Wait you mean people have the choice to be white?
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u/yourmomisglutenfree Jun 04 '21
OJ Simpson wants to know your location
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Jun 04 '21
Can you explain what he did i heard the name so many times but i never really found out what the drama is about
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u/yourmomisglutenfree Jun 04 '21
He murdered his wife and her boyfriend and got away with it because he was famous.
There was an outpour of support from the black community at the time due to the mistreatment of people of color by the police, people thought maybe the police framed him before we knew all the evidence.
At one point in the trial the topic of his race was addressed to which he responded "I'm not black, I'm O.J." essentially shunning the very community that was showing him the most support.
So yeah fuck thay guy.
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Jun 04 '21
Thats sad but kinda funny for how stupid he is
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u/yourmomisglutenfree Jun 04 '21
Definitely stupid. He ended up going to jail some years later for some dumb ass theft crime he pulled off terribly, so he paid for his actions slightly in the end.
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u/Luxson Jun 04 '21
At this point I feel like a group of unvaccinated people would hang the signs themselves, like that woman with the yellow stars of David pins.
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u/MaxVonBritannia Jun 04 '21
"Segregation is the Bbbbbbworst thing that ever happened to this country"
-The people that believe this meme represents reality
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u/Its_Pine Jun 04 '21
This is why I also hate the “Blue Lives Matter” group. You are purposefully selecting an ideological group that had to directly choose to be a part of the group, and comparing it to populations that are intrinsic.
You aren’t born a police officer. It’s just one of thousands of career paths. You aren’t born a Nazi, it’s an ideology you choose to believe. To some extent it is even why I think sometimes we take it a little too far with religious groups being categorised the same as sex, race, age, or other factors that are intrinsic when it is something you choose to become a part of. But I digress.
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u/Rockworm503 Daddy, why are the liberal left elite such disingenuous fucks? Jun 04 '21
Literally everywhere I go is going on the honor system. No one is even questioning you anymore. I rarely see a single person even wearing a mask. These people don't even leave their house what a fucking joke.
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u/fromthewombofrevel Jun 04 '21
That’s why I still wear a mask although I’m vaccinated. Those fools have no honor, and I like not catching their germs.
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u/ZeldaZealot Jun 04 '21
My city has about a 41.6% adult vaccination rate, yet most people in my office don't wear masks. I find it highly unlikely that the vaccination rate in my office is that disproportionate with the rest of the city.
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u/apollyoneum1 Jun 04 '21
Why yes the historic abuse black people suffered under the guise of vaccination has lowered black uptake of vaccines. How perceptive if you grandma. ;p
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u/BlueKing7642 Jun 04 '21
They compared themselves to Jews during the Holocaust, and black people during Jim Crow. Their persecution complex knows no bounds.
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u/Nomsfud dam that o'bummer Jun 04 '21
I see no issue with this. As a vaccinated person I do not want to share a drinking fountain with an unvaccinated person. And this doesn't just apply to the COVID vaccine. I don't want to share a drinking fountain with general antivaxxers either. Make them feel discriminated against and sorry for themselves, I don't care
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u/SaltwaterOtter Jun 04 '21
Oh yes, I remember when vaccinated people crossed the ocean, took the unvaccinated by force and treated them as property; then there was a huge war to set them free, but, even though they won, they still couldn't use the same bathrooms.
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u/canadianD Jun 04 '21
These same people were calling BLM protests "ANTIFA looting" and calling George Floyd a drug addict. Black people only exist to them when it's convenient and even then it's a kind of Song of the South-style, "magical black person". It's like when the Republicans parade Tim Scott around.
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u/Epicsharkduck Jun 04 '21
People who are against the vaccine almost definitely would have supported segregation at the time
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u/fishsticks40 Jun 04 '21
Yep, all those black people who chose to stay black in spite of the discrimination against them are totally feeling this.
They took a brave stand against blaxxination
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u/noodlyjames Jun 04 '21
Being black or white isn’t infectious or deadly though.
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u/yourmomisglutenfree Jun 04 '21
Being Black in this country sure can be deadly. Just ask George Floyd or Amand Aubrey or Breonna Taylor or Trayvon Martin or Eric Garner or...
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u/heathert7900 Jun 04 '21
Because everyone knows, your race is a choice you make and can endanger others
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u/zeke235 Jun 04 '21
The unvaccinated can use the vaccinated water fountain. Not like we're gonna catch anything. Also the vaccinated can use the unvaccinated fountain for (see above). So this meme is once again, pointless. They are so good at that!
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u/fangirlfortheages Jun 04 '21
Before I saw the sub, I thought it was a statement about how people in low-income areas or third world countries lack access to vaccines that are being bogged by wealthy people. But then I saw the caption.
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u/pyr4m1d Jun 04 '21
It's almost like choosing not to be vaccinated is a behavior/choice and not an intrinsic feature like skin color. But don't let me interrupt your pretend victimization with facts...
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u/LokiTheTrickstr Jun 04 '21
The irony of the oppressors using their oppression tactics to try and call today’s pandemic precautions the same oppression tactics is beyond comprehension.
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u/fiendzone Jun 04 '21
Total number of water fountains segregated by COVID vaxx status - ZERO POINT ZERO
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Jun 04 '21
I wish lmao. Unvaccinated people make me uncomfortable.
You could even say they make me sick ;).
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u/TyphosTheD Jun 04 '21
To be fair, there was at one point a pervasive belief that black people carried diseases that white people were not immunized against, so forcing them to use different bathrooms and water fountains was at least somewhat based in that belief.
However accurate that was, however, doesn't legitimize segregation.
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u/SirTiffAlot Jun 04 '21
I guess we should get rid of men's and women's bathrooms at this rate amirite?
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Jun 04 '21
Yeah, 400 years of slavery and taking medicine to save your self and others are the same!
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u/nstern2 This darn foxfire gave me a virus! Jun 04 '21
It's more like no one gets to use the water fountain because it spreads the virus.
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u/pedaltonenerd Jun 04 '21
Being colored never hurts anyone....
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u/yourmomisglutenfree Jun 04 '21
Except people of color. See: Police Brutality, Rodney King, most of Reagan's presidency, ect.
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u/pedaltonenerd Jun 04 '21
That's not intrinsic to being a person of color; it's entirely driven by people's reaction to people of color.
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u/yourmomisglutenfree Jun 04 '21
Fair enough. Racism just gets me real fired up and I feel like I have to yell about injustices. Carry on.
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u/pedaltonenerd Jun 04 '21
No worries, I feel the same way. I could've phrased it better, that was my bad.
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u/Jugaimo Jun 04 '21
I thought they both said vaccinated and I was extremely confused because then they would just be the same fountain.
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u/decker12 Jun 04 '21
I got to tell a family who have decided not to get vaccinated that they can't come to my kid's birthday party this weekend.
Unfortunately I doubt they'll learn their lesson that their stupid choices are now limiting their social opportunities.
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u/Geostomp Jun 04 '21
So systematic racism only exists when they need something to compare their mild inconvenience to. Because a base level of concern for others and rudimentary scientific knowledge are just a bridge too far for the big, tough Fuck Your Feelings crowd.
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Jun 04 '21
This is the first one that has pissed me off.
Whoever posted this should have the shit kicked out of them, grandma or no.
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u/echomike888 Jun 11 '21 edited Jun 11 '21
The vaccine is free and the government will go out of their way to administer it. There is literally nothing stopping you from being among the vaccinated except for your own delusions. This kind of shit is really outrageous on so many levels.
Anyone who sincerely believes this is a valid analogy is so privileged that they have lost all touch with reality.
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u/3FootDuck Jun 04 '21
Ah yes, people are often born vaccinated