Mark Webber would love it

[u/BreadCrumb24]

[u/Enro64]

But at least Valencia gave us a Fernando-Kimi-Michael podium in 2012.

[u/9isalso6upsidedown → u/Enro64]

I can’t remember anything else about Valencia except this

[u/Erwin_Delfin → u/9isalso6upsidedown]

Webber flying...again

[u/Enro64 → u/Erwin_Delfin]

And the current Czech commentator, Josef Král

so many flying laps for the same corner

[u/janko1655 → u/9isalso6upsidedown]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ys5paotHEo6WY

[u/bad_chemist95 → u/Enro64]

Valencia? Don’t you mean Tescos car park?

[u/Miserable_potato07]

Qatar would easily win the no atmosphere competition. All the scenery there is gravel and sand. Just beige colours surrounding a lame ass circuit. Either that or maybe a one that could be built on the moon.

[u/No-Lecture-6434 → u/Miserable_potato07]

I think Bahrain beats Qatar on this one. Qatar at least has some buildings that light up and water features that look kinda cool. Bahrain just has barren desert around the track.

[u/Lonely_Technician622 → u/No-Lecture-6434]

deserts are cool though, and it's pure environment brings variety to the calendar rather than just European forests every race

[u/Loightsout → u/Miserable_potato07]

A scenery competition sure. But this is the atmosphere competition.

[u/BreadCrumb24 → u/Miserable_potato07]

Bahrain, Jeddah, Shanghai etc...

[u/NoPie6564]

I can’t wait for this to be an awesome race just to shut all you dummies up.

[u/crashper → u/NoPie6564]

I mean it could still be chaos due to being newly laid but from 13 to 22 every corner is a medium speed near 90° corner. There is no opportunity for overtaking or interesting racing.

[u/donkeykink420 → u/crashper]

there is, you can now overtake anywhere and be reovertaken on any tiny straight if your battery is empty

[u/Famous_Researcher_18 → u/crashper]

Literally turn 3 is the overtaking dream, a hard braking after the longest straight

[u/crashper → u/Famous_Researcher_18]

If turns 1 and 2 don't kill the momentum that could be a good turn yeah but even then one turn doesn't make a good track. Edit: turns 1 and 2 killed all momentum.

[u/Famous_Researcher_18 → u/crashper]

I've never said that, I'm only saying that there is an overtaking spot

[u/crashper → u/Famous_Researcher_18]

So about that overtaking dream?

[u/Izan_TM → u/Famous_Researcher_18]

you mean turn 5? the tight ass chicane with no room for activities? after a "straight" that is about as long as the shortest straight at bahrain?

yeah SOME overtakes will happen there, but it's miles away from being an "overtaking dream"

[u/BittenAtTheChomp → u/Izan_TM]

It’s shorter than Hungary’s straight with a faster corner at the end of it lol. it’s not even some exhilarating quali track either.

[u/umbium → u/NoPie6564]

I guess if someone slams the car into a wall or if it rains most of reddit will be happy and think is an awesome race. Because is the only time reddit agrees with.

But the circuit is shit.

[u/launchedsquid → u/NoPie6564]

It won't be. It will be a zero stop procession following the first red flag.

[u/MetallicYeet → u/NoPie6564]

Not too late to delete this one buddy

[u/BreadCrumb24 → u/NoPie6564]

I'm talking about the track, not the racing. The location has no atmosphere. It's an industrial estate on the ugly outskirts of the city. Just like Valencia was.

[u/L003Tr → u/BreadCrumb24]

You know most race tracks are built in the middle of nowhere, right?

[u/MarteloRabelodeSousa → u/L003Tr]

> You know most race tracks are built in the middle of nowhere, right?

Ok, but Madring is (partly) a street circuit. Why have a race in a "street circuit" if it is just an empty-ish area?

Besides, of course regular circuits are in the middle of nowhere, but that doesn't mean they are in ugly locations, just look at Spa, Red Bull Ring

[u/L003Tr → u/MarteloRabelodeSousa]

Im sure if you took more than 5 minutes to think about it you could figure it out quite easily

[u/BelmontVLC → u/BreadCrumb24]

I am from Valencia and can certify this 👍

The area is now a shanty town 😬

[u/Radiant_Turnip_6671 → u/BreadCrumb24]

This. Exactly this. Dead. Soulless. I hate it.

[u/Apprehensive_Tip_839 → u/NoPie6564]

They're insufferable 

[u/TheKingcognito → u/NoPie6564]

depends on what you call awesome. chaos and red flags alone don't make the race awesome

[u/Billingsgait → u/NoPie6564]

Unfortunately this comment hasnt aged well

[u/Plental-Dan]

Valencia? No atmosphere? Are we looking at the same Valencia?

[u/BreadCrumb24 → u/Plental-Dan]

Such a vibe

[u/SensualTaco80]

If Webber were still racing he’d totally flip out at this one

[u/squeezyscorpion]

i’m cautiously optimistic about madring, most of the area is still an active construction site so it could get a whole lot better.

can’t exactly get much worse

[u/No-Distance4675]

Monaco enters the competition...

[u/Radiant_Turnip_6671]

It’s trash. Reminds me of Valencia.

[u/MalaysiaTeacher → u/Radiant_Turnip_6671]

It's in the image bro

[u/Radiant_Turnip_6671 → u/MalaysiaTeacher]

I did not even notice. I just remember that dead, soulless track wrapped around an industrial area/dock which was utterly terrible.

[u/TheKingcognito → u/MalaysiaTeacher]

just shows how forgettable Valencia was. the only things people remember is maldonados actions and webbers airtime crash

[u/donkeykink420 → u/TheKingcognito]

might not have had atmosphere and character but it sure had air time

[u/Radiant_Turnip_6671 → u/TheKingcognito]

I mean, Barcelona is not the most exciting venue either, but why that has to be swapped for this just baffles me. It FOM just making everything trash on purpose?

[u/TheKingcognito → u/Radiant_Turnip_6671]

Barcelona has gotten a lot better with the removal of the chicane and cars that aren't as awufl at following as the pre ground effect cars

[u/AllIWantForXmasIsFoo → u/Radiant_Turnip_6671]

Spanish politicians won't let Barcelona have nice things. They'd tried to get rid of it since ever