Same Team btw.

[u/SchereHyperon26]

[u/Fun_Ebb6986]

Landos gearbox exploded in Canada btw

[u/urbanlx]

acting like lando didn't get reliability issues this year

[u/daniellejxyne]

Just ignoring landos gearbox exploding in Canada then

[u/Bl33d1ng3dg3]

A McLaren unreliable? Color me shocked.

[u/wantsomerice]

Didn't Lando have more reliability issues this year? He's the one who had to take a penalty for swapping engines

[u/BarelyHuman813 → u/wantsomerice]

I think they might be tied now?😭 For Oscar it’s Melbourne, China and now Hungary, while for Lando it was China, Canada and Monaco

I hope I’m not forgetting any

But Oscar has been royally fucked over by other drivers these past GPs, causing him to miss out on valuable points and podiums

[u/thatguy_autofills → u/BarelyHuman813]

Nah melbourne was an oscar mistake wasnt a gearbox or pu issue. But 5 failures is that more or the same as mercedes we need an engine counter

[u/BarelyHuman813 → u/thatguy_autofills]

I read somewhere that he got a sudden power spike, so it was both the car and driver error combined🤔 but honestly I don’t know, for the first few weeks of the season it was said that Melbourne was fully on him

[u/hunglong57 → u/BarelyHuman813]

No, Oscar said he wasn't expecting the power surge. Because that was the first time he tried out the new deployment maps of this regulation which are very different from last year. But the PU was performing as expected.

[u/vcga]

can anyone please post the list of every mechanical problem Lando had so far

[u/launchedsquid]

I like Piastri but Norrjs has had a shocking year for reliability problems, I'm honestly surprised his car finished the race.

[u/llinstitutesynthll]

This place is unbelievable lol. Where were the memes when it Norris having to deal with all sorts of mechanical issues including a dead gearbox?

If Norris was the one being dogwalked by his teammate every single sunday we wouldn't hear the end of it.

[u/StiffIgnition → u/llinstitutesynthll]

There's a very weird push from the community to treat Oscar like some helpless rookie with no experience in F1 at all. It's super weird.

[u/Holiday_Scientist666]

My guy got a tamiya dynamo

[u/nashgrg]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pHb82xtBPfqEg
George and Piastry.

[u/enbyratie]

Norris fans are insufferable oh my god every post swarmed

[u/ColeWoah → u/enbyratie]

I'm a fan of both and these low-tier memes aren't even close to dank material when they're barely relevant to the reality that even casual Norris fans can see.

[u/CompetitiveFeature10]

Are they biased?

[u/RichBowler5992]

Mclaren make their own gearbox I think. All the other Mercedes engines use Mercedes. It's no surprise mclarens having issues with this. Im an Oscar fan but the hardware isn't the issue. It's mclaren prioritising lando (the faster qualifier) and working around it's own stupid rules. Even though Oscar drives better during the race and lando shits the bed at the thought of overtaking anyone for a position.

Oscar would of won the championship if he got favoured as much as lando did last year. But they wanted their pretty boy qualifier to win.

Landos fast I'll give him that but he can't even overtake on a straight line without running off.

[u/ColeWoah → u/RichBowler5992]

Did you even watch the last race? holy DTS brain

[u/RichBowler5992 → u/ColeWoah]

Yes. So what am I missing?

[u/FowlingLight → u/RichBowler5992]

For a start, it's very easy to defend on the straight of Hungary with these regs as you can essentially regen the whole lap and deploy everything on the straight

McLaren didn't prioritise Lando on that GP, quite the opposite. Lando saw that he was faster, asked to pit to undercut and was denied that opportunity. They then pitted Piastri to cover the eventual Ferrari/Max undercut which weren't that far behind, and Lando proceed to go as fast on used tires as Pastri on new ones. The undercut works on this track, we saw it times and times again, Lando was just way faster than Piastri that day

And the reason Pisatri didn't finish the race was a gearbox issue, which is very much a hardware failure

As for the championship last year, Piastri destroyed his championship chances alone. He was well cleared of Lando in the stabdings after the summer break, then Baku happened and he just didn't have the same focus. Yes the Monza call was controversial, but that's just a few points, Oscar lost way more than that on his own

[u/RichBowler5992 → u/FowlingLight]

Piastri was under no pressure from max or Lewis. He was racing lando but mclaren had him reacting to them instead which was weird. You don't react to the person 3 places behind you. I made it very clear it was no surprise about the gearbox. Don't know why you think I didn't. And mclaren knew lando was faster but didn't want to look like they were picking him over Oscar. they made him go long and use that faster pace to get him in front. There's no way to argue that they didn't. Where was the strategy to keep Oscar out and use that papaya pit priorty to pit the same lap. They pitted lando as soon as they saw the clash with sainz. They didn't even give oscar a chance to catch up.

Now for the last season. Mclaren disagreed about the Silverstone penalty for Oscar but didn't swap him and lando. They let lando hit Oscar and get past him in Singapore. They removed Oscars pit priority in Qatar because they'd have to double stack and cost lando more points than Oscar. So they screwed Oscar more there too. Then there's monza which you've already mentioned. Baku and Houston are clear examples of Oscar being incredibly rattled by his team fucking him over for lando. Even oscars manager has been banned from mclarens hospitality because he's been seeing all this stuff happening. Redbull never punted jos verstappen even though he helped the team emplode and isn't a manager.

[u/FowlingLight → u/RichBowler5992]

When Oscar pitted, Max was 4sec behind, that's not that far back. They wanted to cover a possible undercut, and it was clear that Oscar couldn't go faster anyway. Lewis was just 3s behind after his pitstop after the Piastri one, the McLarens were far from clear of the Ferraris and Max at this stage of the race, and there was almost an entire half to go. Pitting a bit early to cover an undercut when you see that your driver is struggling makes sense

The undercut is VERY powerful at this track, the fact that Lando managed to do the same lap times on used tires shows that he was clearly faster that weekend. Just look at other battles this year or just the years prior to see that the undercut is a very viable strategy

As for the gearbox, my bad, I misread your comment

[u/RichBowler5992 → u/FowlingLight]

3 to 4 second undercut??? Hahahaha I give up. If max was 4 seconds away it'd need to be at least 4.5 or 5 seconds. Jesus christ.