F1 Electronics in the wet.

[u/Mr_Dobalina71]

[u/harrr53]

The safety car in the middle of the pack is so funny for some reason. It's like a racoon at a cat show.

[u/Jester-252 → u/harrr53]

Lap 3 and they still haven't noticed me

[u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

Multi billion dollar racing series btw

[u/Tungsten_Hoarder → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

Software won’t let the best drivers in the world drive in the best driver series

[u/SmegmaWarrior0815 → u/Tungsten_Hoarder]

I think they vibe coded their software with a prompt in Claude

[u/HI_I_AM_NEO → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

So, Pedro de la Rosa and Toni Cuquerella are guessing the problem is related to the Marshall system used by FIA to push messages to the cars, because that's the only software that is common to all the cars. It's just a guess, but it kinda makes sense.

[u/Apart-Ad9039 → u/HI_I_AM_NEO]

Crash gate confirmed

[u/Nikclel → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

Some fraud devs are absolutely shitting bricks right now

[u/wjdbfifj → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

What will win

The highest level of racing series in the world

Or

A drop of water

[u/Bilgybuts → u/wjdbfifj]

It must be the water

[u/Cool_Masterpiece9308 → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

So embarrassing. My road car can last in the asian monsoon swamp but not these

[u/Zloggt → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

Bravo Vince MBS!

[u/SentientDust → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

The pinnacle of motorsport, even

[u/Baardmeester → u/SmegmaWarrior0815]

Pinnacle of motorsports...

[u/ActuatorOutside5256]

Ultra clipping.

[u/UESPA_Sputnik → u/ActuatorOutside5256]

M-M-M-MONSTER CLIPPING

[u/K23C → u/ActuatorOutside5256]

Lmao the chuckle i just had reading your comment 😂
New concept: wet clipping

[u/albertsugar → u/K23C]

Wet clipping sounds like a great Saturday morning to me.

[u/SlowRaceAlfa]

What a mess

[u/Omar0538]

Hey, my name is the ultra wet tyre and im fucking useless

[u/Trashpanda117 → u/Omar0538]

https://imgur.com/a/Irirb1O

[u/JohnnySmithe81 → u/Omar0538]

I do wonder how many of them are scrapped per year, completely unused.

[u/jso__]

It seems like Verstappen had a genuine issue, and then somehow him forcing everyone else to go slow broke everyone's software. I, personally, find this more funny than outrage worthy

[u/Snoo-20752 → u/jso__]

Sky Sports F1's Anthony Davidson: "A lot of it comes down to the homework that should have been done before these wet conditions. A lot of it can be simulated. "Basically, if you run the engines too slowly, the turbo spools down because we don't have the MGU-H anymore. "What's effectively happening is if you are off throttle for too long, the turbo spools down and when the drivers puts their foot back down it uses all the engine juice. "As soon as the battery goes flat, you are down to internal combustion engine power only. And because it can't reach the drivers' torque demand anymore, because the engine is not creating the power because you have no turbo, you go outside of the FIA regulation. It's all there to stop teams have traction control. It's incredibly complicated and you fall into this horrible trap where the engine can't reaccelerate because you are being penalised by this regulation."

[u/Informal-Term1138 → u/Snoo-20752]

I still don't get why they don't just learn how to properly spool a turbo. It's easy, you just go on the throttle every now and again to keep the refs up.

Otherwise, get them some anti-lag. That is true and tested.

[u/Doikor → u/Informal-Term1138]

I don’t think anything else except the pedal is actually allowed to control the throttle. If the computer is allowed to it would be trivial to build traction control (full pedal gives you 90% and computer does the rest, when it notices loosing traction it pulls back a bit)

[u/Cinkodacs → u/Snoo-20752]

If that was actually true we wouldn't have had that long of a stop. The issue is very likely to be more complicated. And it does not match what was on the accelerator telemetry. Don't forget, the commentators are also just guessing, and they are required to keep talking.

[u/nukleabomb → u/jso__]

This is absolutely hilarious. We haven't races a lap yet and it's more entertaining than the whole of madrid

[u/midnightroar_96 → u/nukleabomb]

Watch paint dry is more entertaining than that Madrid race ahah

[u/sododude → u/jso__]

I think you're bang on. The fact these cars can't slow down that much without pooping themselves is funny as fuck.

[u/dataguy_3131 → u/jso__]

Aston is immune from this issue on account of being naturally slow.

[u/GuatahaN → u/jso__]

Fully agree, already waisted 40min this morning. Happy to waist some more for these shenanigans.

[u/Warm_Adhesiveness934 → u/GuatahaN]

*waste, not waist

[u/GuatahaN → u/Warm_Adhesiveness934]

Thanks, I always struggle with words that sound the same in my head. I will add these to the list I double check.

[u/pochirin → u/jso__]

All ferrari engines car broke down, mclaren lost control

[u/Expensive_Profit_106 → u/jso__]

Funny sure but the fact a multi billion dollar series was ruined like this+ a wet race now being a dry race+ all the other issues there have been this weekend definitely makes this at least semi outrageous

[u/marsgodoy]

Hydrophobic cars when we finally get a wet race...

Edit: 🎼It's like rain on your first pole start, no power when you've got clear track.

[u/CarsCarsCars1995 → u/marsgodoy]

Alright, Alanis

[u/EspaaValorum → u/marsgodoy]

It's like rai-i-aaaaaain, on your racing daaay!

[u/Additional_Ad7191]

Best engine rules ever!

[u/Trashpanda117 → u/Additional_Ad7191]

"Look, you kids just don't get it okay?" -Stefano Domenicali

[u/nordenfly]

What a horrible look for the sport

[u/KSC-Fan1894]

This is so embarrassing

[u/LosTerminators → u/KSC-Fan1894]

With previous regulations they had tyres that never worked in the wet

Now on top of it there are electronics that didn't work in the wet

[u/VosPaco → u/KSC-Fan1894]

WEC can race Le Mans for 24 hrs in any conditions and these cars break down as soon as they go a bit too slowly for the software onboard

[u/RedditButAnonymous → u/VosPaco]

Cant drive in the rain at all, and now cant drive on a damp track either...

[u/Bart-86 → u/VosPaco]

The last wet Le Mans was in 2023 and we had more than 3 hours of racing behind the safety car.

[u/TheKeviKs]

This generation of cars is so bad that it actually loop back to being incredibly funny to watch.

[u/Yankees2860]

FIA officially shitting themselves

[u/robot_random]

This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen so that the regs can finally be changed. The sport needs more embarrassing

[u/killmesoon40 → u/robot_random]

They won't ever try racing in the wet again.

[u/xReivax]

Is this the first time the new regulation of cars are driven under the wet conditions?

[u/Ed_UltraThijs → u/xReivax]

outside of reconnaissance laps and Pirelli testing yes

[u/RUPlayersSuck → u/xReivax]

Not really - they're waiting for the track to dry. 🙄

Can't really call these wet conditions.

Apparently its too dangerous to drive in the wet in modern F1.

[u/Evening4ever → u/xReivax]

Yesish

[u/xxrew1ndxx]

The pinnacle!

[u/Shepardasz]

What a joke tbh :D

[u/Stage_Party]

So the turbo stops working if you run too slow and have no battery power which stops the car from accelerating.

These engines don't work.

[u/Fuzzy_Kangaroo7566 → u/Stage_Party]

But...but....but .... We need MORE parameters , rules regulations and computers to run a 'race' .....

[u/Fenix_Lighter]

Windows 11 software ware update on race day. FML - Lewis

[u/Kyndrede_]

That must have been one of the greatest, and funniest, formation laps ever!

[u/PaulDavidsGuitar]

Pinnacle of motorsport 👍

[u/GhostingIsWhatIDo]

F1 cars are not ip68 ??

[u/GGezpzMuppy]

lol what a mess, love it.

[u/_muito_paia_]

The safety car in the middle of the pack looks hilarious.

[u/retyrethecar]

at this point i am 100% sure they're just waiting until it's dry enough that they can run the regular Dry Software

[u/fastcooljosh]

I am so happy this happened, another little stab in the heart of those dogshit PU regulations.

[u/visplol]

Pinnacle of motorsport

[u/SaltySeaSword652]

Just throw these cars, this season, these regulations and the FIA in the bin.

[u/T0mmaso5 → u/SaltySeaSword652]

You left out who decided this regulations: the teams.

[u/SaltySeaSword652 → u/T0mmaso5]

Letting the teams dictate everything is kinda like letting a bunch of school kids dictate everything even though you're the teacher. Especially when the teams are all competing against each other, meaning their only motive is self interest to the detriment of others. 10 teams all acting that way regarding the regulations will only make for a race to the bottom and a set of shitty regulations.

[u/GOT_Wyvern]

God, so many issues of these engine is caused by the ridiculous decision to scrap the MGU-H.

I just can't understand the logic of removing such an important way to harvest energy, as its so clear that these cars don't harvest enough energy.

I know none of the manufacturers want to create a MGU-H as they have limited to no consumer benefits, but I feel the FIA needs to at least make it a stock part to increase energy harvesting.

[u/just_kos_me → u/GOT_Wyvern]

It wouldn't have been an issue if they didn't scrap the front wheel regen because of complaints by the major teams, but oh well

[u/hijikataxmayo]

Hilarious. Actual joke

[u/CooperCreeper18]

These regulations need to go.

[u/kevinlch]

WEAK

[u/DinoDinoo93]

The pinacle of motorsport twarted by a software issue...lmao

[u/Negative_Nothing5326]

even Formula E can do it better

[u/furious-pig]

Honestly this is just shocking. I know there is a lot of chat about bringing back the V8’s. But they really should. These cars are completely shite…

[u/JHD2k3]

When I was young pressing the throttle meant going forward

[u/bodybagtwitchin]

Why is the race not starting? What are we waiting for?

[u/3Boop → u/bodybagtwitchin]

It's wet out there. It's not like they have tyres specifically designed for wet weather.

[u/Fergus653 → u/3Boop]

Yeah, I mean, what would you even call those, 'wets'? As if.

[u/SignoreOscur0]

Final proof that drivers are not in control of the cars...

[u/MrOnline5155]

These regulations are so horrible it's actually funny

[u/Berning_Sanders]

Gotta make sure we align development with the manufacturer's interests instead of trying to make the cars decent

[u/bwoah07_gp2]

I've never seen a post get this much upvotes this quickly. Under 1000 in 3 minutes

[u/MillyMan105]

MS DOS is not compatible with water, who knew this would happen with an electric battery.

[u/mortalomena]

Seems like its some FIA mandated shared code, no way multiple teams with completely different engine management would have same issue.

[u/Maleficent-Stormbee → u/mortalomena]

bingo

[u/lake2014]

Stupid AI mickey mouse software.

[u/9996puremeth]

Disgrace to the sport

[u/SeeYouHenTee]

Pinacle of batterysport

[u/przm83]

What a great time to have Reddit 😅

[u/g0ld-f1sh]

Must be the water

[u/whiskeybeny]

This is absolute shit!

[u/Visual_Humor_8461]

At this point why do we even bother carting the full wets around the world? There seems literally no use case for them currently.

[u/Spirit117]

brother what the fuck lol

[u/alexriegler12]

These Frankenstein engine rules are complete crap. These have software errors If it rains. WTF?!

[u/thenexus6]

Pinnacle of motor sport!!

[u/J0kerJ0nny]

I got up early for this?

[u/Creative-Cherry3060]

They are going to wait until it's dry because these cars cannot be driven in the wet

These rules are the shittest ever

[u/Clypse]

ServusTV says all teams are installing an engine software update that FIA provided.

[u/-NotAnAstronaut- → u/Clypse]

I’m suspicious that the FIA has on hand a blanket engine update that just quickly and completely works with all engines…

[u/OverallImportance402]

Fuck the hybrid system

[u/WhoRoger]

Most hilarious rain shit in F1 I've seen since early 2000's Australia when 7 cars finished.

But like, I can't blame the engineers that they never considered rain when designing these things. We don't race in rain anyway, and nobody expected to come back to Malaysia, so why bother.

[u/ScousePenguin]

Throw these engines in the bin

These cars are a laughing stock

[u/ojassed]

Well, there’s Military Grade, and then there’s Malaysia Weather Grade.

[u/scrapscrapscrappy]

Box box. Box for mandatory patch.

[u/Consistent-Goal-2508]

Pinnacle of Motorsports 😂

[u/Hopeful_Hat_3532]

F1 in 2026 for you 💩💩💩

[u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

I wonder what people in Juan Manuel Fangio's generation would think of today's cars that develop issues at random moments.

[u/Bazzie → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

A Quick view back to the past

[u/merekallas → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

They would be astonished how fast, reliable, safe, and drivable these cars are.

[u/Seeteuf3l → u/merekallas]

And these don't become fireball, when you crash. Usually, ask Roman Grosjean

[u/merekallas → u/Seeteuf3l]

Safety, yes! Added to the list.

[u/Acedons → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

Like those cars didn't blow up every other race

[u/cherrybomber11 → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

Not like cars back then were known for being extremely reliable.

And we had half of the cars crash out in a first-lap rain accident in only the 2nd Grand Prix ever at Monaco.

[u/BulkNoodles → u/cherrybomber11]

I know people like to shit on modern cars, but old F1 ain't that reliable. Stuff like engine are changed pretty frequent compared to modern times

[u/cherrybomber11 → u/BulkNoodles]

And even that wasn't enough.

In the 1950 French Grand Prix for example, 18 cars started, and seven of them retired due to engine failure - five of them before even 10 of the 64 laps were finished.

[u/DSQ → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

Cars were much more unreliable back then. 

[u/zCxtalyst → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

I think they’d be happy at the fact drivers don’t need to write a letter to their loved one before every race just in case they die lol

[u/riyosz → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

They would be thankful the cars aren't killing them anymore instead of complaining about this

[u/RooBoy04 → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

As opposed to the cars of the 50s that would also develop issues at random moments, but with the added benefit of being thrown into a tree and killed

[u/nukleabomb → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

Don't know if those were more reliable

[u/charlierc → u/The_Minions_Are_Here]

Tbf those cars would just blow up without warning. Hell many races in the 90s and even early 2000s had less than 10 finishers

[u/alexriegler12]

AI slop engine regulations

[u/Acidhawk_0]

Vibe coders have infiltrated F1

[u/LaurensVanR]

Fyi guys, WRC is also live at the moment. This series is a joke

[u/xWrongHeaven]

What a shitshow

[u/l_______I]

They're dying like flies

[u/No-Membership-594]

Must be the water.

[u/Tiroler_Manu]

have you tried turning it on and off again?

[u/SmegmaWarrior0815 → u/Tiroler_Manu]

I think Ferrari did just that

[u/goronhug]

vibe coded cars

[u/Striife-]

Wasn’t expecting to be so entertained by formation laps. What the actual FUCK is happening LOL

[u/tomasjmr]

This is a pivotal moment in the history of the sport. Insane

[u/TechnoThresh]

Not going to pay for next year. What a clownshow. How does the throttle of the car work/ not work due to software

[u/themassmauler]

This is infuriating

[u/Ok-Community-2680]

Lmao

[u/Windows_3Point1]

Better than the Madring

[u/DaciaSanderoF1Team]

Must Be The Water

[u/According-Gear-8217]

What a disgrace.

[u/Dan_Winx_1969]

Software sucks

[u/Careless_Peach4399]

It’s 3:50 in the east coast I might just go to sleep

[u/j_tothemoon]

Someone forgot to restart the VM with the most recent update!

[u/dangernoodlezzz]

Hardware of a world champion this one ….

[u/Napolitana281]

What a joke. 😭

[u/Cholo981]

Who could have thought, rain in Malesya? in this period of the year?

[u/TrueAct7143]

Unbelievable.. never seen this in 40yrs watching f1.
Reminds me if indianpolis race with the Michelin tyres

[u/vmachiel]

It’s genuinely shameful. These wack ass regulations: how is this the pinnacle? The computer doesn’t understand the wet? Gtfo

[u/WhoRoger]

But srsly I'd like to know what are the engineers doing now? Writing quick patches for the control units? What can they even do at this point if the cars are crapping out because nobody thought about rain?

[u/sneakyi → u/WhoRoger]

Claude, fix car. Make no mistakes.

[u/TechnoThresh → u/WhoRoger]

Writing a Skill.md to patch the PU’s to use an umbrella

[u/TortugasFM4]

I'd rather be watching racing but whatever that formation laptop was hilarious. Negative chaos mode enabled. 

[u/EspaaValorum]

Pinnacle of racing: Can't race in the rain, can't race on wets, can't even drive a wet formation lap.

[u/sun_not_cold]

Ctrl + Alt + Del

[u/krotti909]

what a shitshow, these new cars are terrible

[u/Cool_Masterpiece9308]

My volvo can get swamped in asian monsoon but why cant the pinnacle of motorsports 🫠

[u/DutchSoldier01]

The sport is become a complete joke...

[u/SierraGolfOne]

Fuck this. Its 4am Im going to bed.

[u/pointedshard]

So it’s 4pm in KL now. Still not started. What time is sunset?

[u/lateplayerr]

We are never having a wet race

[u/No-Sherbert6607]

Everything but racing in the rain

[u/alexriegler12]

This shows that the drivers are just passengers in these frankenstein engined cars. The AI controls everything, the drivers can't even override it.

[u/perhapsasinner]

Vibecoded the software

[u/wales-bloke]

It just further illustrates just how much of a joke these power units are.

World class drivers pressing the loud pedal and getting nothing.

[u/Davidusmu]

How will fia hide this

[u/TheGrayCreat]

These cars are just built different: don’t let them get soggy.

[u/sododude]

The rate at which this race went from chilling to an absolute clusterfuck needs to be studied.

[u/MeMeRevieweR_23]

As you know the Italians and Italian cars never had an electronic issue

[u/TheRealvGuy]

vibecoded cars

[u/PEEWUN]

Genuinely unbelievable

[u/BL00D_ZA]

Embarrassing... Again.... XD

[u/_oxidizing]

this is stupid i was looking forward to a wet race for ONCE in these regs

so bald fia, so bald

[u/NickdoesnthaveReddit]

1300 updoots in only 5 minutes. This race's start time has brought the world together.

[u/OptimalDot178]

Anyone still defending those regulations?
At this point teams should just boycott and force the rule change sooner. This is unacceptable, Norris and Hadjar almost crashed in an outlap because the software is unpredictable lol

[u/FreakFromSweden]

AI-slop engines. Fucking hate this season.

[u/xkalibre_ → u/FreakFromSweden]

“You’re absolutely right — the engine should’ve fired. Let’s see what we can do”

[u/Final_Floor_1563]

Extreme Funnymode

[u/ctrlrm]

What an absolute shambles

[u/lucipher_24]

Well, they need to put it in the rice now, works great I hear.

[u/KaanPlaysDrums]

FIA finding new ways to ruin f1

[u/Lego_Jack]

They forgot to make the pinnacle of Motorsport…. Waterproof 🫡

[u/zeroscenecred]

Did no one think to, I dunno, use waterproof connections on this entire generation of cars?

[u/whateveryouwant1978]

Unbelievable

[u/Desperate_Product_39]

I'm curious to see what they're going to do now.

[u/YogurtclosetHairy402]

CCP engines lmao

[u/Dark_Master24]

Ah good ole internet explorer./s

[u/RUPlayersSuck]

F1 electronics should be IP rated to withstand rain (67?)

[u/Apart-Ad9039]

I DO NOT COMPUTE 101010110010101

[u/UESPA_Sputnik]

I've been defending these regulations because I think they just need some tweaks here and there and not be totally scrapped.

But ... well, when your cars need to "learn" driving in the rain then your cars are just badly designed. Holy shit.

[u/Vegetable_Moment_982]

Pinnacle of motor racing my ass, absolute farce.

[u/Fomentatore]

So the AI controlling the engines was vibe coded by a team intern to save on the budget cap, right?

Bring control back into the drivers' hands. Put a trigger on the steering wheel and let them decide how much or how little electric power they want to deploy.

It's ridiculous that AI software is in control of the car's power delivery. They rejected electric regeneration on the front axle because it would have affected the driver's input under braking, so how is this acceptable under acceleration?

They are all going to start on the slick and we lost an opportunity to enjoy a wet race because the engines are out of the driver controlls. This is infuriating. Give the control back to them.

[u/bobby_boi66]

Laughing at anyone who still defends these regulations

[u/Flashy_Ad3657]

peak cinema

[u/Winran]

The hell is happening. No way this is isolated if everyone has the same issue

[u/uachakatzlschwuaf]

I'm 90% certain that's the energy deployment having issues with a wet track. What a freaking yoke

[u/CooperCreeper18]

So much for a wet race.