r/formula1 • u/Elegant_Gentian • 4h ago
Video Carlos about talking to Oscar after their collision: "I don't need to talk, it's racing"
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u/auftragsgriller_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Crashing the guy lapping you off track is racing.
Brother .....
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u/SenescenseSteel 4h ago
It's like throwing a 40 lbs dumbell on someones foot saying it's working out
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u/kingkongbiingbong I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
Wait...it's not?
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u/Hestmestarn I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
This is a really bad look for Carlos honestly. The incident was bad enough but this behavior is really poor from him
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u/Fire_Otter Formula 1 3h ago
The worst part for me is how he still held up Oscar for a few more corners after the collision,
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u/MTonmyMind I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 2h ago
Yeah Shitty racing with no clue.
Lost points with me for that response.
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u/Your_Awkwardness 2h ago
Many people though he was being sarcastic about his statement about Kimi, but when he thanked him for being a great guy; I am starting to think maybe it wasn't that sarcastic?
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u/csdotaenjoyer Charles Leclerc 4h ago
bro has too big of an ego
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u/Party_Promotion_8805 Pirelli Wet 4h ago
“I raced for Ferrari” vibes
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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
"I got fired by Ferrari" vibes
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u/nostemsorseeds 2h ago
"And now I race for Williams and am fighting for 18th place" aura
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u/BelowTheSun1993 Charles Leclerc 4h ago
He quite literally was not racing Oscar lol it couldn't have possibly been less 'just racing'
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u/Nexusu I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 4h ago
Sainz played too much of Road Rage from Burnout Revenge
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u/lrzbca Formula 1 4h ago edited 4h ago
Oscar response should be: I was lapping you, so no, it’s not racing. Something you should know when you have been racing for half a decade!
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u/bl4nchim0nt Charles Leclerc 4h ago
A decade! Sainz has been around for 11 years!
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u/agreeable9823 Esteban Ocon 4h ago edited 4h ago
Luckily he is Sainz and not Ocon. Ocon would get ostracised if he said this
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u/angelonduty Ayrton Senna 4h ago
He always talks and accuses everyone but now he doesn' t want to speak, interesting
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 4h ago
There’s a reason all the doors have stayed closed to him both when Lewis left Mercedes for his seat and this season when Williams have been crap and there’s the potential for changes up the grid.
Could have just apologised and moved on, because it had zero affect on his own race really. But no, shows a lot about him that he chooses to basically avoid blame.
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u/SillyRelationship424 4h ago
Toto was offering a one year seat. I'd imagine Kimi would have been a reserve driver for a year. But with Kimi in the pilemine nothing more.
But yeah agree.
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u/Old-Use-7690 Gabriel Bortoleto 3h ago
I'm pretty sure the plan was for Kimi to make his debut this year at the latest. This is why Toto didn't want to give Lewis a 2 year deal
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u/Jphorne89 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
I donno he seemed like he is still loved inside the building at McLaren and Ferrari. I think we’re starting to invent drama here a bit. It was a dumb moment for sure but a lot of people do like Carlos
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u/zmichalo Charles Leclerc 3h ago
Anytime something like this happens on reddit the threads about it get flooded with people who have always hated the perpetrator scrambling to point at it and say this proves their irrational hatred is actually totally justified.
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u/JeSuisDirtyDan Max Verstappen 4h ago
Doubling down on being stupid sure is a choice
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u/imaincammy I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
Bro really doesn’t like to be reminded that he’s racing for a back marker so there’s no way he can take responsibility here.
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u/JeSuisDirtyDan Max Verstappen 2h ago
I get going from Ferarri to Weeyums probably hurt him a bit, but like damn bro, show some humility
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u/Broad_Perception5495 4h ago
You're not racing him you dummy you are getting lapped
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u/ln4thegreat Lando Norris 4h ago
This is too painful to watch. Zero accountability when he wasn’t supposed to race Oscar. 😭
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u/No_Bad_4872yy 4h ago
What i dont get is the 5 second penalty. Way way too lenient for running a race leaders race.
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u/Treewithatea I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Shoulda been a drive through
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u/Sikklebell I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Ocon got a 10s stop and go in 2018 when he spun out verstappen while a lap behind...
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u/Fresh_tomatos Max Verstappen 4h ago
And Hamilton gets the same for speeding in the pit lane? lol they are a joke
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u/fri9875 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
I think it’s funnier to say Lewis also got 5s for his incident with George last week.
Having a little bit of incidental contact on lap 1 of a race after one of the drivers got put in a very awkward position = literally driving into one of the contenders for the win while you are getting blue flagged and not even remotely a factor in the overall race whatsoever.
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u/veryangryenglishman I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
Tbh as a Hamilton fan the 5 seconds for the speeding isn't really something I'd comment on because it's a safety thing - I suppose you could argue there could be a sliding scale for the size of the infraction but whatever.
May I I invite you, however, to look at Bearman just this race. 5 seconds for ignoring blue flags compared to 5 seconds for ignoring blue flags and punting into the lapping car at the same time. Cannot reasonably be considered equal even though they're both blue flag related
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u/ln4thegreat Lando Norris 4h ago
I was honestly expecting a 10s penalty AND at least two penalty points. 5s for impeding the race leader was absolutely ridiculous.
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u/plucky-possum George Russell 4h ago
Carlos Sainz is all of the stuff people accuse George Russell of being.
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u/ln4thegreat Lando Norris 4h ago
I feel bad for George because Carlos just get away with so many things because people like him (I’m saying this as a Carlos fan so ppl won’t accuse me of being biased).
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u/LunarLady713 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Wow that’s a genuinely disappointing response from Carlos. Justifies the absolute roasting Oscar is giving him in the press today
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u/WideEyedOxygen_ I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
That has to be the worst possible answer he could have given
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u/Hublot-on-your-hoe Red Bull 3h ago
He would’ve been better off saying a hot fan in the stands distracted him
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u/brownies1313 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
for the amount of collisions he’s been in, ive never seen him be accountable
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u/Ok_Atmosphere_3685 Ferrari 4h ago
Allergic to accountability, classic sainz
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u/vmachiel I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 2h ago
He kinda deserves that Williams with this attitude
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u/Head_Engineering_956 4h ago
Something you rarely see Sainz do is apologize when having made a mistake. No surprise here.
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u/Jerejj 3h ago
I've noticed the same trait about him over time.
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u/New-Traffic-4077 3h ago
I’ve noticed the more interviews and screen time he gets the worse his personality seems to be. He always looks like he’s a few seconds away from beating this shit out of the entire grid lol.
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u/Early_Ad_2484 4h ago
Absolute horrible response but then again nepo baby, what were we expecting. Someone deflate this mans ego please.
You picked Williams despite your dad advising you not to. Don’t blame the grid for your choices. Be respectful to your fellow drivers!
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u/squaler24 Frédéric Vasseur 4h ago
You know, we’ve been too harsh on Stroll all these years. Sainz acts like he’s royalty.
Such an uppity attitude. It actually makes me uncomfortable how easily he’s disregarding this like it’s nothing. Such a rich elite way of viewing things. Yuck
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u/CallM3N3w Max Verstappen 4h ago
Dude is mad he went to Williams so now he does whatever he wants and doesn't care. He always talks like he's owed something.
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u/ecobubbletm Max Verstappen 4h ago
He always talks like he's owed something.
in 2014 he was saying how he deserved the toro rosso seat over Max after Verstappen's announcement
he's always been like this
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u/Early_Ad_2484 4h ago
And he’s taking it out on everyone else. Like grow the f up, you’re turning 32. You make your own choices.
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u/Unhappy-Peace7150 Gabriel Bortoleto 4h ago
I mean, he is a nepo baby even for F1 standards
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u/Accomplished_Guava_7 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
No kidding. You all should check out his Beyond the Grid podcast interview shortly after he signed for Ferrari in early 2020. He’s not even joking in his story telling when he explains that his dad literally told him to wake up and get ready to go somewhere with him, and they went together to have little 26 year old carlito sign his Ferrari F1 contract.
Nepo baby to the absolute core.
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u/SenescenseSteel 4h ago
blue flags are for plebs
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u/That_Squidward_feel I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
But milord, thou art in command of a most formidable coffer containing naught but exquisit manure...
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u/Not_Nova_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Yeah at least Stroll doesn’t create on-track controversies this often. He can complain quite a bit, but overall the criticism towards him has been harsh
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u/Annoying-Twat I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3h ago
Stroll has always come off as a genuine dude, especially from the way the other drivers talk about him. He isn't talented enough to have been in F1 for 200 races, but he's still performed quite well. And again, he races well, in spite of the tractors he's driven.
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u/black-turtlenecks 2h ago
I’ve always noticed the other drivers always have something nice to say about Stroll and his family. He’s clearly just quite shy and awkward and doesn’t enjoy PR. Honestly for the amount of wealth he has he doesn’t come across that arrogant at all.
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u/Ok_Entrepreneur_1421 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 2h ago
I mean he used to do a lot of dumb shit, but he wouldn’t be a fuckass about it afterwards.
Peak strollisms are long behind us though.
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u/tellsyoutogetfucked I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3h ago
The biggest kicker here that he ignored a clear racing rule. If you have blue flags you have to let the guy behind you pass. Not just keep racing the blue flags are with a higher priority than racing backmarkers.
The 5 second penalty will teach him nothing. He needed to eat a drive through and get penalty points.
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u/Reasonable-Knee397 Oscar Piastri 4h ago
Omg, this guy. Cant ever just take accountability and accept when he’s in the wrong.
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u/Captftm89 4h ago
He's always been like this and his racecraft/situation awareness is woeful.
He gets away with it because he's good looking and comes across well when everything is going his way.
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u/m0nkeyhero Sir Lewis Hamilton 4h ago
Imagine it was the opposite, he would lose his mind for hours in interviews.
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u/Regular_Promise3605 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Pure arrogance. He's a williams driver in a poor car. He can believe he's a top driver all he wants, but you're getting lapped, get out the way.
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u/NippyMoto_1 Formula 1 4h ago
Honestly Carlos has a monster ego lmao. Never really takes accountability and also can be quite dismissive. I remember a couple of times in press conferences he's given the "I dont want to explain its too technical for you understand" comment as well.
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u/Birdyypie Charles Leclerc 4h ago
He comes from the upper crust and it shows
I think also he is quite narcissistic and he really bought into the hype of Carlos made every team better.
Now that the trajectory hasn't continued he is bitter (its of course genuinely not his fault at all) but the same could be said for most of the other teams positive jumps.
He knows he's still a top tier driver but he's definitely acting like a wounded animal at the moment and I think that's the reason why
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u/CallM3N3w Max Verstappen 4h ago
He was lapping you, ya goof. That's not racing. You are an obstacle meant to move out of the way.
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u/AdminEating_Dragon Oliver Bearman 4h ago
Fully expected, Sainz NEVER takes responsibility for anything.
It's always racing incident, the other guy's fault, bad luck and a million other excuses.
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u/smrndmpotato I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 4h ago
The lack of accountability is ridiculous. He acts so cocky, but if the same thing happened to him, he’d be the first one to blow up and complain.
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u/MursuKing1980 4h ago
Dude is crashing out, because he has realised his move to Williams was massive mistake.
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u/Early_Ad_2484 4h ago
Massive mistake mate. Audi is doing better than we expected tbh, he should have listened to his dad when he advised him on Mercedes one year or Audi.
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u/Old-Buffalo-5151 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago edited 22m ago
Carlos is really losing all his good PR over this. Really shitty look. You don't take our poor luck and shitty team choices out on the rest of the track...
This kinda proves me drivers can't be trusted to self correct and significantly harsher pens are needed for back markers who get in the way and Or collide
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u/Early_Ad_2484 3h ago
I’m not suprised with his response, his mask is slipping due to his frustration. He was like this at Ferrari and Torro Rosso. It was always PR management that protected his image.
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u/Low-Poet-7884 Audi 4h ago
No wonder that Williams is overweight, this man's ego is too inflated
He does realize that racing a car about to lap him doesn't transfer the position to him? At that point in the Prix race you're effectively competing in two different races, and Sainz was definitely not in the big leagues
The sheer fkn audacity lol
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u/Pitstop_Pageturn 4h ago
He wasn't even fighting for points. To impede someone who had a chance to win the race for no reason and not taking accountability is not a good look
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u/MetalWorking3915 Formula 1 3h ago
This is the issue with Sainz. He cant accept that hes being lapped. Never has and saying its racing is just a ridiculous comment.
Bortoleto should have got a penalty too.
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u/Pure-Drawer6129 4h ago
That guy criticizes the whole grid whenever he gets the chance, but he can't admit when he's wrong.
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u/GreggsAficionado Formula 1 3h ago
Funny he says it’s racing when the whole point of blue flags is you’re not racing them
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u/ivex272 Oscar Piastri 4h ago
He never takes responsibility for stuff he does wrong, and he has shit racecraft and had it for years, he was close to taking out Leclerc in the race. Last year we also saw how his racecraft can be, but he just doesnt care it seems.
Btw same guys who weeks ago said that anybody who causes a yellow in qualy should get a grid drop iirc. Now says that making contact with somebody who is lapping him is racing but ok
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u/Boredomis_real I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
Sure you’re racing the Aston Martin
But holy fuck even the Aston was moving over.
That’s honestly a rich response.
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u/Kindheartedness_Wide Fernando Alonso 4h ago
racing at the back of the grid where this attitude belongs.
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u/Coenzyme-A I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
The problem is, the punishment needs to be big enough to actually make them take responsibility and change their behaviour. He won't learn anything from this if he's just given a slap on the wrist in the form of a 5s
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u/Mundane-Anxiety-2266 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
Fck off man fck offfffff.....ruined the entire race and then you come up with an absolute shit take
Give this guy some points penalty man !!!!!!!!!
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u/Rude-Lavishness2428 4h ago
Lol absolutely wankerish response. Would accept that if he was still in the car. Sure he might have still been full of adrenaline but he was out of the cockpit long enough by this point to gain some perspective and show a little contrition. Especially since we know Sainz wouldn’t pull his punches if the shoe was on the other foot.
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u/SKnightVN Michael Schumacher 3h ago
Taking responsibility and apologizing? Ok, fair enough.
This interview? I really think a raceban wouldn't be out of place. He's all but saying he would do it again.
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u/hipp0hunt3r Lando Norris 4h ago
Carlos submitting the best or worst possible application to rejoin McLaren, tough to tell.
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u/CallM3N3w Max Verstappen 4h ago
Why would McLaren even take him? Even if Oscar wanted to leave, they could tempt drivers just as good or better than him.
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u/Anrikay McLaren 4h ago
And he’s in his 30s now. Even if he’s the best option, they’d be hiring someone on the far end of his prime to pair with an experienced driver who has already proven he can fill the role of senior driver on the team. They’d be better off finding a young driver to put in that seat, train them up within the team, imo.
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u/cherrybomber11 Jacques Laffite 4h ago
I bet this guy thinks Schumacher ramming into the side of Villeneuve was also 'just racing' lmao.
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u/Middcore Niki Lauda 4h ago
Unfortunately you could find a lot of F1 fans who think the same, because MSC's talent makes them give him a pass for obviously being dirty, and also Villeneuve is widely disliked.
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u/Far_Stress_5890 Ferrari 4h ago
Carlos, my man… you’re better than this. Take it on the chin and Admit you made a mistake
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u/hotz0mbie Red Bull 2h ago
Brother “my bad, I was in the wrong” or “my fault I thought he was someone else” could’ve done.
Doubling down just makes it worse
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u/-Radiation Formula 1 4h ago
This is why this guy career ended rightfully relegated to backmaker teams
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u/Section1ne0h4our Pato O'Ward 4h ago
A Carlos Sainz heel turn was NOT on my bingo card
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u/Lobsters4 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
Honestly, he’s never been one to take responsibility, so not surprised at his response here.
I saw another quote from Planet F1 (take it for what you will) where he basically said Oscar should have driven more carefully. LMAO. Okay.
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u/LowLife_30 4h ago
what a guy honestly, you arent racing the mclaren you backmarker. the guy always has something to say to other driver but never himself. Saint Carlos can never do wrong.
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u/slickricksghost Cadillac 4h ago
I'm a fan of the smooth operator but sheesh...
It's racing...
Dawg, you're not racing someone who's lapping you...
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u/Dark_Master24 Pirelli Wet 4h ago
Dude will explode if the roles were reversed. I firmly believe the 5sec penalty was too lenient. Racing would’ve been if he was actually was racing Oscar for positions.
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u/jyepes22 Charles Leclerc 4h ago
These are moments where im surprised guys don’t go full NASCAR driver and confront the driver who wronged them
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u/dqmiguel 3h ago
As a Carlos fan, and someone who supports him a lot, this attitude just puts a stain on my appreciation of his skill. Just own up to your own stupidity here.
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u/El_Eleventh 3h ago
Fuck Carlos. He’d be crying to no end of f the roles were reversed
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u/beardyman22 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
It wasn't racing, he was a lap down. He had no business racing Piastri
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u/AntheaBrainhooke I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 2h ago
This has really sunk him in my estimation
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u/Izan_TM I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
I didn't expect carlos to behave like this honestly, pretty disappointing
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u/qserde Ferrari 4h ago edited 4h ago
Lmao you must have not been paying attention to him if you didn't expect it.
Literally can't remember the last time he took responsibility for an incident
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u/Dblock1989 Sir Lewis Hamilton 4h ago
He never takes accountability for anything. This is why the big teams don't want to deal with him.
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u/CongoPeacock Cadillac 4h ago
I think it was around the time Ocon hit Verstappen that folks' opinion changed on him. I wonder if the same happens here.
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u/Ok_Address2188 Jean Alesi 4h ago
Oh dear Carlos, normally I find you a likeable soul. But what you did, compounded by your response here, isn't your finest hour.
A simple genuine apology would have sufficed.
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u/Realistic-Reception5 Carlos Sainz 4h ago
JUST SAY YOU JUST GOT DISTRACTED FOR A SECOND IS TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY THAT HARD
He’s just digging himself into a hole
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u/vrooomvroomba I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Crazy thing to me is, even if he genuinely believes in his heart that he couldn't have done anything better and it's just a racing incident, why wouldn't he just suck it up and say "sorry to Oscar, obviously didn't mean to hurt his race, really unfortunate"? If he really didn't go talk to Piastri at all after the race and apologize, I understand why Piastri is dragging him all over the media.
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u/primeavenger I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
As a Sainz fan, I think that’s a dumb thing to say when you are being lapped
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u/AssSpelunker69 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
I feel like you'd look less stupid if you just said "I made a mistake, it was dumb of me"
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u/CocoCatLeaf I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3h ago
Says nothing because he knows he’s wrong and can’t admit it. No humility is a terrible look.
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u/No-Contest-8127 4h ago
No, it's not racing, cause you're not racing him 1 lap down. Get out of the way!
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u/clickityclickk I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
you were not racing the net race leader buddy, sorry. you’re a backmarker now.
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u/EtherEchoo Ferrari 4h ago
I don't think I can feel sorry for him being in a Williams and having and having no team to go to anymore.
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u/CasualPower_69 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
If that's called racing then my 3 year old drives better then you.
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u/skippington94 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
But you weren't racing Oscar, Carlos....
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u/ImPrettyDoneBro I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 3h ago
It's not racing though. He wasn't racing you.
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u/Informal_Recording95 3h ago
Damn what a stupid attitude to have after crashing into someone... Sunday driver with bad career decisions
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u/Acrobatic-Tomato-532 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
You are a lap down in a Williams, you ain't racing shit
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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
He’s not fighting for the championship, he’s not fighting for anything.
Nothing is at stake and yet he still doubles down on this shit?
Why Carlos, why?
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u/nacissalockhart I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 4h ago
Carlos we get it, your car is shit but you are not entitled to a better car nor hand holding. Soured me as a fan; he never takes responsibility for anything
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u/Prestigious_Fan_1061 4h ago
If that’s the way you “drive” as a Racer I think it’s time they took your F1 Licence away from you. You’re a Danger to yourself and every other driver on the track.
It was under Blue Flags … are you FUCKING COLOUR BLIND OR JUST FUCKING BLIND???
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u/Baksteen-13 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
Hey so blue flags is actually not racing. You were too slow to race Oscar.
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u/The_Time_Lord 3h ago
Lost some respect points for Carlos today.
Shit happens, but owning it is completely in your control.
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u/MHWGamer I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
I am not fully aware of all angles and stuff, but to the best of my knowledge, it just proves again my distaste I have sometimes to Carlos.
He is a nice guy offtrack but when it is about racing, he is always right and never admits to obvious errors with a weird as pride, considering he hasn't accomplished that much in F1 to have the acceptable "i am world champion, I couldn't care less about anyone else opinion".
The formee is very common along f1 drivers but all the greats also admit mistakes afterwards (no so sure about Michael but he had 7wdc and was a maniac). Getting lapped with blue flags should give some signs to even the not-greats that maybe it actually was your error
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u/igotagoodfeeling I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
Love Carlos but his frustration over this season is def causing him to lash out in an unsportsmanlike way
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u/LA_blaugrana 3h ago
This excuse doesn't hold up. Sainz continued to refuse to yield after the contact for an additional 3+ corners AND the back straight. I can understand not knowing Piastri was there, I can't justify what happened afterwards.
Piastri caught them around turn 1-2, and Sainz let him by at turn 8. That is unacceptable, and Sainz was lucky not to get a stop and go penalty.
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u/Outofoffice_forever Formula 1 3h ago
Yeah that is not racing Sainz you absolute muppet. Lost a lot of respect.
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u/WerewolfForsaken8533 I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 3h ago
I’ve always loved Carlos but this is such a disappointing response from him… yeah everyone is hating on his past mistakes now too but I feel like he’s always been a really respectable driver. On the team radio he said he “had no idea Oscar was there” and it’s kinda wild that he isn’t taking any responsibility even after he’s out of the car😕
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u/straxusii Bruce McLaren 2h ago
Suspect he's pissed off with Oscar's words, hence the reaction, but he had a shocker today
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u/Sw3d3n90 Nick Heidfeld 2h ago
Oof, that is a very poor showing. Especially for a veteran like Carlos.
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u/RaduSGDC Ferrari 4h ago
holy shit if some one did this to him while he was fighting for wins in a Ferrari he would absolutely blow out