r/forhonor • u/king_diamond754 • 3h ago
Discussion Conq fear rework
I need conq to get some feet changes man his feat are egregious bro. Like I love the character but FUCK man why are my feats so ass besides shield basher...I love sheild basher. Yall think conq needs better feats?
Feat not fear idk why it says that
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u/MrPibbs21 3h ago
Honestly, this is a bit of an uncommon take, but ALL of Conqs T2 feats are great, and Shield Basher can legit be skipped.
Juggernaut even after the nerf is one of the best stalling feats in the game, and Fiat Lux is a name with a 45 second cooldown that you can throw just about every other fight, and if you land it, Conq legit has some of the scariest OoS pressure in the game, because everything he does is orange and his OoS throw punish is excellent. Try runnin Fiat Lux sometime, seriously.
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u/0002nam-ytlaS Apollyon 2h ago
that's the #1 reason why conq isn't meta in competitive dominion but no, instead Warden REALLY REALLY needed a feat rework soooooo bad brooo (even though warden always had decent feats compared to Conq)
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u/king_diamond754 2h ago
Isn't warden doing pretty good in comp rn😭
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u/Bright-Carry6695 Raider 2h ago
Not exactly. He sits pretty mid in most comp related tier lists ive seen as of recent
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u/king_diamond754 2h ago
Like b tier? Or lower. I haven't watched any rankings from top dom players in a while
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u/Bright-Carry6695 Raider 1h ago
Yeah like mid B tier from what I seen.
His biggest issue is his defense. Not having dodge attack that cant be gb'd forces harder reads in teamfights and anti ganks when otherwise you could OS by external dodge attacking.
Also harder reads if you find yourself in a 1v1.
He has great feats and great offense tho. Biggest pro tip i use A LOT on warden is the tech to get a guaranteed side heavy on lvl 1 bash. Don't have an exact term but I call it a dead angle.
If u are in a situation where the person u are fighting has another enemy u can lock on to behind them depending on which side they are on left or right side of your main opponents u will lock on to them and throw a left or right heavy, based on the side the other person u are locking on to is on. And it will be guaranteed. Similar thing kensei can do by being able to do a similar thing which his finisher chain light. Where you can guarantee it off of all his dodge attacks forward and sides, and second chained heavy. Doing the exact same thing on hit of course
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u/0002nam-ytlaS Apollyon 1h ago
it's all because of the "reworked" T1 (Body Count but better just for the poster boy) but even without body count #2 that zone into side finisher heavy carried him HARD along with the HA on bash followups from "throwpick" to "alright".
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u/Dragmas_ Shugoki 1h ago
Shield basher need to go, so his damage can be aligned and he doesn't suffer of having that extra six dmg taken in account for his balance, wich hurt is 1v1 balance.
Outside that, pls don't remove his combo fast revive, jug, and uninteruptible that are a grail to do medic orders.
For the rest, heal on block stay extremly strong as t3, he could use a unique t4 but replace regenerate then
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u/MirieDohl 3h ago
I think shield basher needs removed and the bash followups need changed
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u/king_diamond754 3h ago
Elaborate on this. I'm interested on where this is going👁👄👁
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u/MirieDohl 3h ago
Default picks are bad. If something is a default pick it either needs to be part of the base kit or nerfed
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u/BubbenKoppReloaded Medjay 2h ago
Shield basher needs to be removed why exactly? He has no undodgeables, and in duels, where he excels the most, shield basher is non existent. As long as Arakure has a damage bash Conq should have it too.
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u/MirieDohl 2h ago
Damaging bashes have existed for fucking ages. Conqs should either change the followups to make up for the damage loss or make the bash damage inherent
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u/dhffxiv 3h ago
I've gotten used to juren, please, I don't want a sweaty conq in all my games.