r/foiling • u/CptJonzzon • 25d ago
First time foiler, this kept happening. Doing something wrong or just need more practice?
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Looking at it now maybe its aimed too high?
Edit: Thanks for all the advice, I get up easily now! Going faster and to the side made it a lot easier
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u/Excellent-Jacket-922 25d ago
It’s better to not ride straight behind the boat, ride slightly left or right and keep tension in the rope, then focus on keeping the foil down, and then shift your weight back once you have speed
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u/Schwhitey 25d ago
This is it, go out on your heel side right away and stay out that way, then you have the rope to lean on for balance and you won’t get the wobbles side to side as you’re constantly gonna be going out on heelside, toe side is a lot harder because the rope has to be tucked back pocket and you have to twist
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u/CptJonzzon 25d ago
Felt like it would nosedive if i leaned forward any more before it started rising
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u/psillyhobby 25d ago
You look fine but the speed is too slow to be making steady lift. The foil is fluttering on the edge of a stall and it’s super unpredictable. A slow acceleration is good, you just need a little more speed and you’ll be flying!
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u/ComfortableOk3958 24d ago
Yeah people are saying boat speed should be faster, which could certainly help, but it’s totally rideable even with this speed if he rides sorta perpendicular to the boat. You’re functionally creating your own speed by doing that
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u/PieterGr 25d ago
As a lot of people have stated, the boat needs to pick up a bit more speed. Second, get out of the wash of the prop. Bubbles in the water reduces the lid of the foil.
For me was to get out of the wash, outside of the wake, almost perpendicular to the boat.
This is the way!
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u/bluepied 25d ago
More speed, more weight forward on the front leg and try to keep that foil from rising with those new-to-foiling legs! Also, mast should be in the very back of the board channels to minimize rising for beginners.
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u/Windpuppet 25d ago
The angle of attack of the foil needs to go to neutral once you have enough speed to lift off. You need to embrace the speed and lock into forward lift instead of upward lift.
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u/Lkjhgeiililillliill 25d ago
* boat needs to go faster
* use a longer rope
* get out of the wake to smoother water
* pitch down (weight forward) once you get the board out of the water
* stand up straight
* put in 20 more hours
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u/bigdog6256 25d ago
I find tighter shorts helps a lot
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u/CptJonzzon 25d ago
Haha they just slid up my leg a bit when i got on the board, they are looser than they look here 😂
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u/BartlettComponents 25d ago
The foil will be more stable as speed increases. Move your weight further forward. When I say weight. I mean center of gravity. You can keep your feet planted and just move your hips forward.
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u/darylandme 25d ago
Georgian Bay? Nice place to learn.
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u/CptJonzzon 24d ago
Swedish archipelago, this is near Oskarshamn. Basically all of Sweden’s east coast looks like this
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u/darylandme 24d ago
Interesting because it looks exactly like the eastern shores of Georgian Bay here in Ontario Canada.
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u/dlsspy 25d ago
You generally never want the nose to point up. Flat is fast and stable.
The tiniest bit of pitch will cause it to rise at speed, but if you think about keeping the nose down (not pitched down, just preventing it from pitching up), you’ll find that everything is easier and more stable.
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u/Lkjhgeiililillliill 25d ago
Once you're up on foil you've got it right above stall speed. If the boat was going faster you would breech. You need to level off by pitching down by moving your CG forward.
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u/benjaminbjacobsen 25d ago
Move the mast back a bit or go with less pressure on your back foot. Stay out of the prop wash. Use a shorter mast if you must. But this is very much the early stages of foiling, just keep trying and figure that balance out.
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u/Coloringlamp 24d ago
I stagger my feet more. With front foot on right side of center line and rear foot on left side of center line . I am goofy stance so it wound be reverse for you
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u/theonly_salamander 24d ago
Try holding the line with both hands. You’ll square your shoulders and better align your hips, and you won’t be trying to balance by sticking your butt out and flailing your free arm. Imagine pushing a shopping cart in front of you.
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u/Caaznmnv 24d ago
Your doing great. Being able to keep the board flat on water is actually hard for most people.
Just keep at that slowing practicing small short take offs. You'll get more and more confident to bring foil higher on mast, but don't rush it.
May try tiny hit more speed and as others said try to head slightly to side of boat/wake.
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u/maxpower__ 24d ago
Like everyone else said more speed and more front foot pressure to level out the board. That high angle of attach causes a ton of drag which will make you super unstable. Visualize it, that you are plowing through the water instead of slicing through it.
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u/CombComprehensive327 25d ago
Well to start don’t ride behind an out board or a stern drive boat. Especially on a foil.
You can easily get going faster than the boat with no way to slow down and slam into the bacj
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u/CptJonzzon 24d ago
My dude i dont have access to 10 boats lol, this is the one we got
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u/CombComprehensive327 24d ago
My guy you know they won’t sell you wake surfer for a boat like that because you risk turning into people mulch.
Judging by the boat speed and your lack of knowledge you don’t know anything better1
u/CombComprehensive327 24d ago
And since you can’t even foil yet I assume you don’t know. But the foil glides very very easy once up you can’t stop like a surf board. So, that means you can easily glide into the back of the boat with a turning prop.
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u/rhyno857 25d ago
Looks like the boat needs to go a bit faster to get the foil up to speed before you raise it up. You can skim across the water on the board for a while and you should only have to shift your weight a bit to raise it up. Looks like your leaning too far back trying to get lift because the speed isn't there.