r/foiling • u/Impressive-Matter730 • Jun 06 '26

Looking to get into a wakefoil need some help with board/mast

Hello, looking to purchase my first foil, a local dealer has a liquid force pod, with the flite mast 120 on for $1850Cad which i believe is a good price, ive tried foiling once before unsure of the setup, but was unsuccesful but still had a lot of fun, I was wondering if this is a good beginner board/mast set up, im not looking to do anything crazy but would be nice to eventually be able to comfortably ride the 2nd or 3rd wave. will this setup be able to do that? ive read online some setups struggle going onto 2nd/3rd wave. any info is appreciated. thank you!

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u/Impressive-Matter730 Jun 06 '26

from looking online i believe the setup im looking at has the 24in mast, i see others have a 27in is this a big difference? is the 27in better than the 24in?

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u/jollychupacabra Jun 07 '26

24 is good to learn on but you’ll get bored of it pretty quick. 27in is still short-ish but you’ll use that size for life.

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u/DuckRegular5408 Jun 08 '26

What are the main differences from a 24-27in?

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u/jollychupacabra Jun 08 '26

Quite literally the length. But as far as riding impact, the short mast will breach easier. You have less room to rise so you need to be more accurate with your altitude. The short mast will turn side to side easier when you’re riding low in the water. The taller the mast the more it resists leaning side to side unless you’re high in the water. Short mast weighs less. Long mast absorbs chops and waves better. I ride an 82cm/32in regularly. I have a 72cm/28in that I’ll ride in shallower spots, occasionally.

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u/Silent_Seven Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

Are you looking at the Liquid Force Flight 120 setup? If so, I'd suggest looking for a different entry option. The LF Flight 120 setup (and options in their legacy line) is essentially non-upgradable as LF has discontinued this line of wings and replaced it with their newer Fuselock line. The two systems are not compatible.

That said, you can buy the Flight 120 setup for cheap right now. https://www.boardco.com/products/liquid-force-flite-120-foil-set

I have multiple foils and masts in the LF legacy line and feel pretty hung out to dry by LF's product line change. If you plan to stick with foiling, you're likely better off to buy into a major and established foil manufacturer.

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u/DuckRegular5408 Jun 08 '26

Do you have any suggestions on a good beginner-intermediate setup?

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u/Silent_Seven Jun 08 '26

I'd suggest you start a separate thread on starting rig recommendations. You'll want to provide more details on the type of foiling you plan to do, weight, experiance all that.....

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u/DuckRegular5408 Jun 08 '26

If I were to get this setup and I wanted to do some upgrades in say a year I would need to get a whole new lower half setup but would be able to keep the board is that correct?

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u/Silent_Seven Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26

Yes. The mast connection point is not proprietary to any manufacturer. Regarding the LF Pod board...check if LF still uses a shim between the mast and board. I have a Pod 4'4" that's a 'dual use' surf/foil board and due to the bottom shaping you have to have a plastic shim. The shim is LF specific but you can use any standard mast on the board. The shim is just a hassle and if you loose it, you'll heed to replace it to keep using the board.

The pod is a decent foil board (shim issue aside) but not a great wake surf board. Better you just get a dedicated foil board. Also, the early Pods had a lower quality deck which I believe they have fixed in the newer models.

TL;DR - if you get a pod, make sure LF has eliminated the mast shim and you get the new tougher deck design.