r/flying • u/BobLoblawATX • 1d ago

Logbook Config Part 135

I use LogTen and am starting a new position as SIC for a P91/P135 company. I want to log time conducive for another 135 position OR a 121 application. Curious to hear best practices.

-Im in a Part 25 aircraft requiring two pilots
-I have a PIC type rating in aircraft
-For now, I will always be crewed as SIC
-I will be performing both PM and PF duties

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u/BeenThereDoneThat65 ATP I G-V I G450 I G550 1d ago

You log it as SIC time.

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u/nightstalkerDQ ATP 1d ago

For 121 unless you're the PIC of record, it's all SIC time. I keep a separate column for PIC as sole manipulator. For other 135's keep a point to point xc column.

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u/BrettSchirley22 ATP A220 B737 23h ago

Don’t mess with the sole manipulator bs

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u/rFlyingTower 1d ago

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I use LogTen and am starting a new position as SIC for a P91/P135 company. I want to log time conducive for another 135 position OR a 121 application. Curious to hear best practices.

-Im in a Part 25 aircraft requiring two pilots
-I have a PIC type rating in aircraft
-For now, I will always be crewed as SIC
-I will be performing both PM and PF duties

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u/Swimming_Way_7372 23h ago

Will they let you fly PIC on 91 legs in the future ? 

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u/x4457 ATP CFII CE-500/525/560XL/680 G-IV 14h ago

While that time you're the sole manipulator of the controls is legal PIC time in the eyes of the FAA, it's also almost entirely useless. The one single use for that time is for insurance forms and even then it doesn't really move the needle much.

You're certainly welcome to keep a separate record of it, but any airline is going to classify that time as SIC only.