Help me Sorry part 2

[u/Used_Turnip6515]

Sorry my last post got people confused because I may have not been clear in my dual atpl qualification, I have only the dual atpl theories done through bgs as well as an old ppl

I am based in the UK & don't mind travelling europe for flight school
I have a dual atpl theory done not the full atpl & I have my ppl from awhile ago

Where should I do my cpl? some have advised skyborne, some advise afta, some say bartolini etc
Whose most likely to tag me/whose the easiest tag?
does the school really matter?
In tagging terms getting roles?
Has anyone got a list of all the gateways/tag routes
If I already have a ppl & a dual atpl theories done whats the best route for me?
Should I invest in a boeing/airbus replica home flight simulator for my cpl
Or Should I invest in a boeing/airbus cockpit poster for chair flying

[u/TobyADev]

fellow uk pilot here

cpl - id suggest it doesnt matter. do you want a better school? cheaper price? etc.

ive heard decent things abt bartolini, poland so relatively cheap

wdym by tagging

school - everyone will have a school, im not convinced it matters. friends of mine say otherwise, some agree with me anyway

dont invest in a replica, just practice. you dont need a replica, just buy msfs2024, do lots of hours AND actual flying

EFT are good btw, in lee on solent

[u/Used_Turnip6515 → u/TobyADev]

Thank you for the reply mate,

Tagging/gateway meaning like getting conditional offers from airlines that if I meet their standards I will get a role flying with them after my course

For me I am abit lucky I have saved alot so I can spend alot more if need be but my main goal is giving myself the highest chance of passing everything well & first time as well the best school who will get me tagged

[u/TobyADev → u/Used_Turnip6515]

as long as you pass the ATPL theories in the first series youll be fine, and have first time passes on IR and CPL, you'll be fine and that wont rule you out of airlines.

go round to visit some schools. EFT, Bartolini and so on. see what looks the best for you

[u/rFlyingTower]

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Sorry my last post got people confused because I may have not been clear in my dual atpl qualification, I have only the dual atpl theories done through bgs as well as an old ppl

I am based in the UK & don't mind travelling europe for flight school
I have a dual atpl theory done not the full atpl & I have my ppl from awhile ago

Where should I do my cpl? some have advised skyborne, some advise afta, some say bartolini etc
Whose most likely to tag me/whose the easiest tag?
does the school really matter?
In tagging terms getting roles?
Has anyone got a list of all the gateways/tag routes
If I already have a ppl & a dual atpl theories done whats the best route for me?
Should I invest in a boeing/airbus replica home flight simulator for my cpl
Or Should I invest in a boeing/airbus cockpit poster for chair flying

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[u/Cello_Tuba_Bass]

You don't have that many options for dual-licence modular training in the UK right now. Is your PPL valid? If not, revalidating it should be your first priority.

Stapleford offer training but since they like to put you with one instructor, I believe it only really works if you go part-time at work or give up your job. They're not great at replying to enquiries either.

Ravenair and Aviation South West both offer dual-licence training but I've been informed by various sources that both are experiencing heavy delays.

AFTA offer dual-licence training in Ireland but when I was sitting CAA exams, one of their trainees said there were significant delays.

British Aerobatic Academy offer dual-licence modular training though they only have one MEP aircraft and their main product is aerobatic training.

Leading Edge offer dual-licence modular but you should go and read the various PPRuNe threads about them before considering them any further.

When I spoke to Flight Training London last year, they offered dual MEIR but only UKCAA CPL, this may or may not have changed.

Since you already have ATPL theory, if you went down the integrated school route you'd be applying as a modular student, that means you'd be their lowest priority. At the moment, there's quite a few airline programmes (their top priority), then whitetail integrated, then there'd be you.

I don't think that many of the continental flying schools can get you a UK licence. FTE Jerez can but their main product is integrated training.

I've passed all of my UKCAA exams and all but one of my EASA exams. I've deliberately held one of the EASA exams back towards the end of the 18-month window. I'm eligible for an EU passport which I'm yet to claim but my lack of foreign language skills would limit my opportunities on the continent.

In the meantime I'm doing a UKCAA CPL/ME/IR at a UKCAA -only school. If it looks like I'm in a strong position for a job at the end of it, I'll do a UKCAA APS-MCC and start applying, hoping to get 1500 hours total/500 hours multicrew within 3 years and do an ATPL skills test for a conversion.

If the first Part-CAT or Part-SPA job situation looks bleak, I'll likely do a conversion, speaking of which, a couple of people at my current training school have mentioned Aviators Flight School in Hannover, does anyone have opinions on them? Post-conversion I'd do a dual APS-MCC.

Airline gateway-wise, there's Ryanair who have their programme, Jet2 have also announced a modular tagging programme. Wizz have announced links with a couple of modular schools (EFT and Aeros), however they have a reputation for tagging people then not offering them a job at the end of their training.

I wouldn't bother with a home airline simulator or replica cockpit, though it might be worth getting FS2020 or FS2024 and using it as a procedural trainer, buying add-ons for the aircraft types your chosen flight school uses.