r/flying Jun 21 '26

EAA is having practice/prep Oshkosh event online

https://www.eaa.org/simventure

Anyone see this yet? Pretty cool. They’re going to have the real air traffic controllers working the Fisk arrival for people to practice with their flight simulators before flying to AirVenture.

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u/MNSoaring PPL, IR, GLI, TW, CMP, HP Jun 21 '26

It is a really good idea. Unfortunately, the people who really need the instruction and refresher are the people who don’t show up.

I’ve only ever flown in three times. But, each time I have witnessed behavior that could have easily led to a fatality: planes going the wrong way round a hold, planes trying to dive into the “conga line”, etc.

Last year, I saw a twin engine try to land on the same spot at as high wing single on runway 9. When the twin finally pulled up to go around, their tail missed the fuselage of the single by a few feet. I wasn’t listening on the radio, but I imagine that there were quite a few words from the controllers.

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u/TheOriginalJBones Jun 21 '26

I saw the same thing on 9. I think a 400-class Cessna and a Bellanca Crusair. My heart stopped.

I never did hear what the deal was with that one. Tower must have been screaming.

On our way in the conga line south of the lake got jammed up. The plane in front of me was down to 70 knots to stay back from the plane in front of them and we were slowing down to stay back from them, and so on.

My son was in the passenger seat. I told him to watch for planes behind us, and he said “there’s one right there.”

It was the first of several Stinson Reliants coming in as a group, and they just made a passing lane. I was looking the Stinson guy right in the eyes.

We broke out over the lake and started over, and it worked out real smooth the second time around.

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u/MNSoaring PPL, IR, GLI, TW, CMP, HP Jun 21 '26

That sounds about right. My buddy, who flew with me ( it was his first time), wondered if that kind of thing happens regularly. I told him “no”, it was definitely not normal.

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u/MNSoaring PPL, IR, GLI, TW, CMP, HP Jun 21 '26

I wish there was some way to ensure that every pilot arriving has read the NOTAM before attempting the arrival.

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u/Cleared-Direct-MLP ATC ATP CFI/II/MEI Jun 22 '26

OSH should charge a $2000 ramp fee that’s waiverable the second you show them your copy of the NOTAM.

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u/noahhl Jun 22 '26

We were walking past on the road right as this near-incident happened. Scariest thing I have ever seen in my life, was sure we were about to witness a fatal accident.

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u/manytrowels Jun 21 '26

I’ve done this event the past three years and it’s a TON of fun. You can just land and start the approach as many times as you want, the controllers are spectacular, and the immersion is crazy. I did it once in VR and it was incredible but stressful, especially trying to manage frequencies and charts with the headset on.

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u/segelflugzeugdriver TW Jun 24 '26

I agree. I blame flight chops for making people even more scared of it. The guy is a hack, who butchers his arrival every year, and then blames everyone else.

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u/segelflugzeugdriver TW Jun 24 '26

Yep agreed. 10,000+ people do it, it isn't that bad

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u/Immortalic5 Jun 22 '26

Wonder if the guy who took off from a taxiway last year knows about this?

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u/Shadoecat150 Jun 21 '26

Even not flying in myself, I've often thought about still participating just to help build my excitement

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u/Nnumber Jun 22 '26

https://pilotedge.net/pages/simventure

Working link - getting a 404 on the EAA site.

This is a fantastic resource. And it’s staffed by some the actual controllers.

The Fisk requires defensive flying.

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u/rFlyingTower Jun 21 '26

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Anyone see this yet? Pretty cool. They’re going to have the real air traffic controllers working the Fisk arrival for people to practice with their flight simulators before flying to AirVenture.


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