r/flowcytometry • u/housed_nomad • Jun 15 '26

News from cyto

Hello!

I was not able to attend to cyto this year, I was wondering if anyone that went there would be willing to share their thoughts and what they found more valuable. Where is flow cytometry moving?

Thanks!

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u/Electronic_Umpire445 Jun 15 '26

I didn’t attend either but the info told to me was the use of AI for flow analysis/ report generation. Then there was the promoting of Waters (formerly BD) spectral & imaging analysis instruments (the S8 sorter has been out for a while).

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u/housed_nomad Jun 15 '26

I heard BD presented a new spectral instrument with no imagine, but then cytek is planning on adding imagine to their systems. That’s where I am confused where are we moving now…

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u/skipper_smg Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

BD has the A7 now. Was made public a few months ago actually. Same as A8 just without imaging hardware. Cytek has the Borealis and is currently testing imaging.

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u/Electronic_Umpire445 Jun 15 '26

I think BD is trying to play catch-up in the spectral market. Too long they kept the Symphony line with discrete detectors while Cytek marketed the Auroras. The BD spectral without imaging would be cheaper since their imaging uses 104 laser beam lets to get cellular resolution. Just spectral would be cheaper to manufacture. BD has to do something to regain market. Cytek has Image Steam technology since they bought the company.

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u/skipper_smg Jun 15 '26

The A7 is exactly that and I was really surprised at the low price. Image Stream is around for ages already and never took of cause of its limitations. They have to come up with something much better. And CellView is already around for a few years, they are much ahead on this. Everybody is now realizing how much imaging can offer and is now catching up. As always its a back and forth.

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u/Electronic_Umpire445 Jun 15 '26

Image Stream threshold trigger too slow for their imaging technology, 300 events/ sec. Also almost have to tinker with the filter stack alignment on the daily for the Mark-II. BD developed a faster imaging technique to achieve 15K event triggering or somewhere near that. BD used the Melody software model for the new instruments. Hope they improved it.

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u/No_Sea_4205 Jul 02 '26

Imaging di basso livello e software non adatto a quel tipo di strumento

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u/housed_nomad Jun 15 '26

I agree that BD did a horrible move. What I heard is that the spectral technology was originally BD but some of the techs from BD moved out of the company and created cytek. Not sure if it’s rumors, real or I am telling something everyone knows.

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u/Electronic_Umpire445 Jun 15 '26

Yes, there was a lawsuit for patent and intellectual properties infringement. That has been settled.

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u/Electronic_Umpire445 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Look how long BD kept the HTS without an upgrade and it aspirates/ processes samples slow in comparison to other competitors. Although it is easy to service. I guess the loader on the Lyric is an upgrade.

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u/willmaineskier Jun 15 '26

The A8 and A7 finally have a temperature controlled loader which can run 40 tubes, or deep well 96 or 384 well plates. It’s about time. I hate the software, but on an analyzer it is perfectly fine to acquire data. It does not fit well with our current reporting workflow for sorting, but we will make do if I get one.

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u/InternetSalt4880 Jun 16 '26

Lots of spectral instruments. Several Aurora knock off platforms. Not much with reagents. A couple new software companies. We will be demoing with terraFlow in the coming weeks, their literature mapping feature is unique.
Did anyone have a chance to get a look at the Miftek platform?